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Posted by microflash 4 days ago

Clicks Communicator(www.clicksphone.com)
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as1mov 4 days ago|
This actually looks nice! I'd prefer a slide out horizontal keyboard like the X10 Mini Pro[1], but beggars can't be choosers.

I've never gotten used to the touch keyboard, since writing anything while code-switching multiple languages doesn't really work well with the predictive input. Especially if the other language has to be transliterated from a non Latin script.

Though the update policy doesn't sound too promising, 2 years of OS updates + 5 years of security updates is too short :/

[1] https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10_mini_pro-3...

gspr 4 days ago||
Slight digression: why isn't a computer – a general purpose computer, open enough to run mainline Linux – in this form factor readily available? I'm fine with not calling it a phone. I just don't understand why we don't have (connected) open pocket computers by now, with all the innovations introduced by smartphones more or less commoditized by now.

By "open" above, I don't necessarily mean open hardware (though that would be great). I just mean "as open as a random consumer x86 computer you can just throw any Linux distro at without any special secret sauce".

jeroenhd 4 days ago||
https://www.gpd-minipc.com/ has all kinds of models for the "tiny laptop" form factor as long as 7 inches is tiny enough for you. Their recent products seem to be pivoting more towards the "handheld gaming computer" space, but their Pocket 3 and MicroPC 2 seem to be pretty close to "pocket computers". As far as I know, these are plain old amd64 platforms that will run Linux as well as any other Chinese motherboard.

The small+portable nature of these phones make them unsuitable for amd64 chips (so far) so everyone is using ARM chips, which means dealing with weird and quirky bootloaders or hard-coded OS keys. Qualcomm is putting effort into getting some iterations of their hardware into a well-supported state, so hopefully we may see better mainline Linux support on their chips soon. However, you're not going to get your hands on Qualcomm chips if you don't beat their (high) minimum order quantities and these tiny keyboard phones are hardly mainstream devices, so they often end up with MediaTek chips which have absolutely terrible mainline Linux support (and even worse bootloader quirks).

drakythe 4 days ago|||
Miniaturization is expensive and often these kinds of devices rely on some form of subsidy to be cheap enough to reach popular adoption levels. Not to mention the user interfaces these days seem to be built for touch or game controller, and not a lot else.

Your options are things like the CHIP (which is dead, now, I think?), Pocket GPD or other gaming focused ultra-portable, or something like the Pinephone.

oytis 4 days ago||
Linux phones exist, but I don't see a huge market for it. Most people don't really need a general-purpose computer in their pocket. The most used app on my phone is a web browser, and I also need a banking app, authorization apps and all the parking, public transportation apps for wherever I happen to be today to work.
yujzgzc 4 days ago||
That looks like it's trying to do too much and too little. Too smart for a dumb phone, too limited for a smart phone. The hard keyboard feels antediluvian now that we have swipe or voice recognition typing with relatively acceptable accuracy, or for typing in multiple languages.
solomonb 4 days ago||
Wow I wish they had announced this sooner. I just ordered a keyphone but this looks way more suited to my use case. I just want a basic feature phone + qwerty keyboard + signal + whats app.

I've been using a lightphone for 3 years but i can't stand the touch screen and only having SMS is annoying.

joshlemer 4 days ago|
What do you use for maps? Or paying for parking which maybe isn't the case for you but in my city requires use of a smartphone app. What about music and podcasts? Asking cause I would like to use a dumb phone if possible but it seems like it would actually introduce a lot of friction into daily life.
solomonb 4 days ago|||
I pay for parking with quarters or a credit card.

If necessary I use a piece of paper for maps.

For music I have an ipod.

ulfw 3 days ago||
And you watch movies on your VHS?
solomonb 3 days ago||
Why are you trying to make fun of me?
Klonoar 4 days ago|||
The Keyphone they are referencing is Android, so those things can be worked around to some degree.
solomonb 1 day ago||
Hopefully! Supposedly it is pretty locked down but I'm hopeful there is a way to get other apps onto it.
reconnecting 4 days ago||
Actually, this was initially a phone accessory (1) with a keyboard.

App reviews (2) saying that there was lot of glitches with keyboard app.

I assume same approach will be for the this phone: accessory keyboard over android phone.

1. https://www.clicks.tech/en

2. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.clicks.com...

scienceman 4 days ago||
Ah man this hardware looks amazing — I just don’t know if I could give up living on iOS…
mertd 4 days ago|
They have a standalone keyboard product that snaps with magsafe.
Topfi 4 days ago||
Also, the existing suite of Clicks Keyboard Cases for iPhone, which while making the phone longer than the slide out magsafe PowerKey, keep the depth nearly unchanged.

Personally got an iPhone solely because Clicks initially was only available for Apples product line and have to say after two years that while Android was never bug free either, iOS doesn't really keep me on polish alone. In other words, neither is less issue prone/has fewer bugs and glitches than the other.

asadm 4 days ago||
While the communicator is nice, I just pre-ordered the power keyboard: https://www.clicks.tech/powerkeyboard
crtasm 4 days ago||
Looks great and the price is a pleasant surprise. Can we flash a custom OS to it?

I'm missing having LED colours for notifications on my current phone.

KingOfCoders 4 days ago||
Loved the LED on my Blackberry Passport.
reconnecting 4 days ago||
I had two Blackberry Passport even after EOF. Best email experience ever and LED for emails was particularly useful.
summermusic 4 days ago||
I really hope the bootloader is unlocked and something line LineageOS could be adapted to work well with it.
BrenBarn 4 days ago||
I don't see how a smaller screen is "designed for doing". I already find regular phone screens to small to do any meaningful work on. For me it's basically impossible to do actual work on anything smaller than a laptop (and even a small laptop makes it stressful).
zx10rse 3 days ago|
I recently charged and old Blackberry to see if it is still alive. They got everything so right I really miss those devices I will buy BB in a heartbeat. The OS is sublime I was surprised how after 10+ years not using a device like this I could go around everything without any friction. So easy to use intuitive the little trackpad is on par with macbooks, BB had stacking messages 10 years ago, the size of the device is just perfect. Everything about it is just a joy to use. I can't understand to this day how this company went downhill.
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