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Posted by todsacerdoti 6 days ago

2026 will be my year of the Linux desktop(xeiaso.net)
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josefritzishere 6 days ago|
I am one full page ad away from deleting Windows 11 forever. I will struggle through infinite driver compatibility issues before I sit through a single ad while trying to work. That is my redline.
bbkane 6 days ago||
For me it was the OneDrive ads on the lock screen. And, when I accidentally clicked "enable OneDrive" (a few years ago, this might have changed), IT TOOK OVER MY DOCUMENTS FOLDER AND TOLD ME THERE WAS NO WAY TO REVERT IT!
pynappo 6 days ago||
Yeah onedrive is seriously annoying. It's nice when the free 15GB backup/sync for the desktop, pictures, and documents folder works (for people who put things there) but the way other MS products work with it seems user-hostile to me.

e.g. it took until 2025 for this RFC to be opened on moving PowerShell profiles and modules out of Onedrive: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell-RFC/pull/388. It should not be taking seconds for my powershell profile to load just because i have onedrive enabled by default.

I also had a non-technical friend recently get burned by a default MS Office setting where edited documents located in the OneDrive folder save directly to onedrive, and it only gets saved on disk when onedrive gets the new copy and uploads it back it to the user's disk. So if the MS office to onedrive integration fails your changes won't save. Apparently users have to enable a setting to first save to a folder on disk? That folder can even be the onedrive folder so onedrive will eventually sync it back up.

ab71e5 6 days ago||
What devices are you expecting driver issues with? Even NVidia is not much of a problem these days
rubyn00bie 6 days ago||
I've been using Linux as my desktop since 2020, I switched because I wanted to play games and maintain a development environment I'm familiar with (having run Linux servers for ~15 years at that point) that would be stable. I had long used a Windows machine for gaming and a Mac laptop for development. My Mac was stable enough, but Windows was not-- it wasn't blue screens it was constant unpredictable updates (sometimes erratically running when I didn't want them to). I had an SSD in the machine with Windows, but after installing Pop_OS! (as a happy accident) I never found a compelling reason to use Windows again.

Steam has worked perfectly, clicking install and then hitting play, no futzing with drivers or weird updates. The only games I haven't been able to play are League of Legends and some of the new AAA shooters. I'm okay with that because I don't particularly care at this point, and it's not worth maintaining a Windows install to periodically play for an hour or so.

Linux has been unbelievably stable. This year, I fully upgraded the system and planned on reinstalling but I didn't even need to. On first boot, my old install was picked up and mostly just worked. On Windows I've tried that before, and it was an unrelenting shit show (that resulted in having to nuke the old windows install).

The only hitch I've had was installing conflicting NVidia drivers (open source vs proprietary); which, I was able to fix by booting into the command line then nuking both sets of drivers via apt remove and installing the one I wanted. Took me less than five minutes and my system was working. It also wouldn't have happened if I hadn't tried being too clever (and Pop_OS! having some quirks).

I recently setup a MiniPC to use while traveling to game on and this time I tried Arch. To my surprise the install was ridiculously easy. The most recent installer makes it a breeze. My only mistake was not noticing I'd installed a few desktop environments and the default wasn't what I wanted so things seemed broken. After selecting KDE from the login menu et volia! It worked perfectly. I'm considering switching my primary rig to Arch, but I'll give the most recent Pop_OS! release a try to see if the newer LTS version gets me access to some new packages first.

Linux is great folks. If you stick with a major distro you're likely going to love it. It's really low maintenance and just works. 11/10 would recommend to anyone.

cogman10 6 days ago|
> If you stick with a major distro you're likely going to love it.

Even the smaller ones are unironically pretty fun to work with now-a-days. I'm currently rocking Gentoo on my stuff. After the painful setup, it's actually quiet easy to maintain.

timpera 6 days ago||
I don't really understand why everyone is complaining about Windows here, I'm not at all experiencing the same issues. The ARM64 version of W11 absolutely is the best OS I've ever used. I enjoy using Fedora but it's not coming close for professional use in my opinion.
vanviegen 6 days ago|
If you want to understand why everyone is complaining about Windows, you just need to read what is said in those comments. On the other hand, if I want to understand why you think W11 is absolutely the best OS you've ever used, I... guess I'll have to ask you. So, would you mind sharing what makes W11 great for 'professional use'?
timpera 6 days ago||
I'll obviously depend on what you're doing for work. Most people here are programmers, and I'm not, so your mileage may vary.

I find that W11 just works: the multitasking is awesome (especially window and monitor management, huge improvement over W10), everything is snappy, the ARM64 battery life (especially in standby) is Macbook-like, I never have issues with USB-C docks and monitors (unlike Fedora where I always have to tinker with the terminal at some point), and the Windows version of Microsoft Excel is still unmatched.

Also, the UI is very pretty, but that's obviously subjective! And you get way more customization options on Linux.

I am not encountering most issues listed here, which I why I was confused, although I agree that Microsoft AI-bullshit-driven "vision" for Windows is a bit worrying.

2b3a51 6 days ago||
You mention arm64 bit. What sku is that? a 'pro' version or did it come installed on retail hardware?

(We use Windows 11 on plastic Thinkpads (L15s, intel) at the centre I work in, an educational organisation. They have ads, insist on switching to edge even though we need Chrome for single sign on and do seem a tad sluggish).

qaq 6 days ago||
MY NY resolution is to switch to Linux after two decades of using MacOS as primary OS. The UI direction, abysmal quality of software and people getting randomly banned from the ecosystem without good reason and with no recourse finally pushed me over the edge.
mindcrash 6 days ago||
I've just finished the base install of Gentoo on my brand new Framework 16 and I still wonder why I didn't make the move sooner.

Hardware: HX370, 128G RAM, Radeon 860M iGPU, Radeon RX7700S dGPU, Xbox Wireless Cntroller, 2T + 8T SSD storage

Software (as of today, still making additions and refinements): Gentoo/OpenRC (I don't like systemd), Kernel 6.12.58 with additional module for the Xbox controller, Pipewire+EasyEffects 8, KDE Plasma 6.5.4/Wayland, Steam

Experience: KDE runs pretty stable, and only has the things I really need (and not the things a vendor thinks I need).

The first game I benchmarked today was Doom (2016), which runs smoothly on 90-120 fps on high settings.

The second game I benchmarked today was Indiana Jones and the Great Circle (2024) running on ~56fps on recommended settings on the 7700.

The one game I tried today and could not get to run properly was Stalker 2: Heart of Chernobyl. I suspect that, given the many positives on ProtonDB, that's mainly either a configuration or Proton issue. I'll do some more research and give it another try in the near future. Right now performance drops to 5 fps immediately after starting a new game, and the CPU running on 600Mhz maximum when starting the game on Proton Experimental.

For now I am quite happy with the results, and the fact that I likely finally am able to eject Windows out of my life.

cryptica 6 days ago||
I love the fact that there are different Linux distros optimized for every person.

I started using Linux almost a decade ago; starting with Ubuntu, then I moved to Kubuntu and now I'm on Omarchy which is even more optimized for developers.

I feel very comfortable recommending Linux to people now though I would recommend a different distro depending on who is asking.

IMO Ubuntu is the simplest general-purpose one. Kubuntu is the same but more customizable slightly more developer-focused. Omarchy (which is a fork of Arch Linux) is very developer-focused.

coffeebeqn 6 days ago||
I would also recommend Mint Cinnamon for anyone. Everything worked out of the box, super fast and simple. Just a breath of fresh air compared to the bloat of the big corporation OSes these days. It’s like being back in simpler times with Windows XP where things are snappy and it doesn’t get in your way
fantasizr 6 days ago||
I've loaded up omarchy and I'm really digging all the keyboard short cuts and window tiling.
cryptica 5 days ago||
My previous setup with Kubuntu was quite developer friendly with workspaces but Omarchy takes it to the next level. I'm very happy with it. I actually like most of the default tools that come with it. For example,.I was using a lot of vim before but actually neovim is a big improvement.

It has a lot of nice-to-haves which I wouldn't have bothered setting up individually but having them altogether out of the box does improve the overall developer experience significantly.

ojr 6 days ago||
Windows still have the gamers. A lot of anti-cheat system completely block out Linux users. The Year of the Linux Desktop will still be a meme at the end of this year as well.
ivanjermakov 6 days ago|
Except ProtonDB website reports that completely blocked games make up 3% of the top 1000 Steam games.

Meanwhile, 84% is perfectly playable (some with minor tweaks).

https://www.protondb.com/

jillesvangurp 6 days ago|||
My guess is that this is going to shift rapidly for new games. Once the Steam PC launches, most new games will probably run fine on it. There's no logical reason for game studios to throw way significant market share over weird legacy crap related to "anti cheat". I expect the already significant amount of Linux using Steam users will grow to the point where game studios can no longer ignore it in terms of revenue and angry users and will actively test and ensure their games work flawlessly.

Of course one point here is that MS owns some of the more problematic game studios. Anti cheat here might be less about users cheating and more about them using this as a control point to ensure gamers keep on preferring Windows. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I don't think MS has much of a moat left for gaming. And it will be tempting for them as well to tap into the few percent of Linux using Steam users for selling them games. They've long stopped insisting on windows for things like Office or SQL Server as well. The whole of Azure is pretty much Linux based at this point. So, they might dig in for a bit but they'll be under growing pressure to give in.

jama211 6 days ago||||
So you’re still rolling a 6 sided dice every time you try a new game as to whether it works at all, and half the time you need to tweak it still? That’s a reasonably large barrier to entry then. I have arch Linux but I still boot into windows to play games that are supposed to be supported because I got sick of playing through 20 min or so of a game for it to crash in a specific spot and I’d have to start over in windows if I couldn’t find a reliable solution. After that happens a few times in a few games, I gave up and now I just go to windows to play games every time so I stop running into issues.
rasmus-kirk 5 days ago||
I buy games for my steam deck, only stopping to read up if they're "unsupported". Surprisingly, they seem to often STILL work in that case, this happened with Ghosts of Tsushima, which was unsupported because their online play didn't work (good riddance lol).

Never had an issue with any game running through proton. Only issue was Stardew Valley that couldn't play online. Turns out the Linux version (was default) had an unfixed bug, and choosing the Windows version with proton "Just Worked". Hilariously, "Win32 is the most stable Linux ABI"...

jama211 5 days ago||
Yeah I’m not surprised, the steam deck hardware was picked with the best compatibility in mind. I’m aware in my case I have non-ideal hardware for Linux, such as an nvidia card.
rasmus-kirk 4 days ago||
This is also one of the primary reasons I'll buy the Steam Machine. Sure I could build whatever myself, but I actually want proper hardware support. I also don't mind that the profit margin that I pay to make my life easier goes to Valve and their Linux Gaming pursuits.
jama211 4 days ago||
Indeed, the steam machine is very tempting to me too
Root_Denied 6 days ago||||
I saw someone make a good point about this the other day that that 3% of games represents a much larger percentage of the gamer population - Pareto distribution comes into play with popular games where a small number of games account for a larger share of gamers' attention.
ojr 5 days ago||||
Valorant, Fortnite, Call of Duty, Apex Legends, Destiny 2 and Rainbox Six Siege are not supported on Linux, how much of those 30 games of 1000 are some of the most played games? I already name 20% of them.
ivanjermakov 5 days ago||
Correct, for top 10 Steam games it reports 50% perfect play.
timpera 6 days ago|||
To be honest, I've found ProtonDB to be way too optimistic when saying that games are "playable" (for example, a game running with no multiplayer still counted as "playable").
cromka 6 days ago||
Things like this don't help: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46471081
nialv7 6 days ago|
Actually surprised that Xe wasn't already a Linux user.
xena 6 days ago||
Have been for a while, had Windows for games, but now Fedora runs them well enough I don't have to care.
rasmus-kirk 5 days ago||
I thought you used NixOS? Is it just your gaming system that's Fedora? Do you still use Nix?
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