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Posted by kevlened 4 days ago

Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team(github.com)
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monkaiju 4 days ago|
>But the reality is that 75% of the people on our engineering team lost their jobs here yesterday because of the brutal impact AI has had on our business.

Wow that is just, really tragic... AI continues to just decimate this industry. Everyday I'm happy that I am, and have been since about day 3, an AI-hater.

vhiremath4 4 days ago||
I will be honest. I love open source. But something that really annoys me about the open source community is that the developers take this holier-than-thou approach to backing up maintainers in circumstances like this, but obviously they are not paying with their own money. They are just complaining, and it feels a lot like virtue signaling at worst and pure naivety at best. It feels extremely disengenous at this point, and it's annoying.

What do we actually know?

1. People are inherently selfish. If you give me this shit for free, I'm gonna use it for free. Obviously everyone is doing this. Spare me the "but I go to this conference or that conference".

2. Code is cheap. Why would I ever pay for something that is not gated behind a service with API limits and costs?

3. Coding as we know it is getting commoditized. That's correct. We are all going to lose our jobs as we know it today. Clearly that's the future. Wake up!

But when making these points, open source devs (and honestly a lot of people on hacker news) whine and complain. I don't really know why I'm leaving this comment - I just feel like I'm at an annoyance breaking point. This guy is obviously struggling to pivot and all the grandstanding and virtue signaling just feels like additional noise and wanting to feel good with very little action.

throw234234234 4 days ago|
Because of point 3 most SWE's are also hesistant to pay for software. The positive feedback loop of "I did well out of this so i will support others as well" is over.

When you are thinking your days are numbered any cost to develop software (even token budget) is measured. As coding becomes commoditized the ROI in code will drop of that code (capitalism rewards scarcity; not value delivered) and you suddenly become cost conscious. We are moving from a monopoly-moat like market to a competitive cost based market in SWE as AI improves.

sfc32 4 days ago||
Is 75% 3/4 engineers, 30/40 or something else?
saos 4 days ago||
> our revenue is down close to 80%.

Damn

okokwhatever 4 days ago||
How many of us understood the scale of the problem when music creators were ranting because the piracy was destroying their business?

We'll have to adapt mates. Sadly (i dont say this happily) this is a new reality we cant decide on.

twolf910616 4 days ago||
The web is too open. Sad day to read these comments.
la_oveja 4 days ago||
looking at their partner list, which is 5000$ a month, and theres 16 partners, thats minimun 80k$ a month. just an insight.
utf_8x 4 days ago||
It would appear that they pay their employees fairly well, as seen in this old job posting [1] (not all levels will make this much of course but it gives you a general idea, almost 300k a year is a lot even for a staff engineer).

$275,000 is almost $23,000 a month. Take that times N amount of employees, and other business overhead, and suddenly $80k a month is literally peanuts.

[1] https://tailwindcss.com/blog/hiring-a-design-engineer-and-st...

wltr 4 days ago||
Do you think they’d survive?
la_oveja 4 days ago||
i have no idea, even less in usa, but with 80k a month income you could def pay for a dev team and infra in some countries.
ravins 4 days ago||
Sad to hear such from creator of tailwind
molaaoonao 4 days ago||
That’s rough. Respects to the honesty.
cultofmetatron 4 days ago|
really surprised tailwind didn't get ahead of this by providing some sort of mcp interface and custom agent for designing design systems and autogenerating ui code directly based on the user's project. if it worked out of the box or with a few clicks via en extension, it would be a killer feature.
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