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Posted by kevlened 4 days ago

Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team(github.com)
1451 points | 836 commentspage 8
codeptualize 4 days ago|
Never been a fan of tailwind, but this is kinda sad. Given it's popularity what a sad situation that they aren't getting able to get properly funded.

I think the solution is one of the big companies with lots of money to acquire tailwind. Specifically Vercel. They use it, their v0 thing uses tailwind allover, they have bought a bunch of open source companies in the past, and they should have deep enough pockets. Last year they acquired tremor blocks, which is a UI library, that uses tailwind!

Makes perfect sense, lets get it done.

retrocog 4 days ago||
Licensing hasn't caught up yet. It probably wouldn't be the worst idea to have a simple content copyright license protocol or standard that works for LLMs?

Something simple and obvious, like sticking a license file that has certain expected fields in /.well-known. I wouldn't be surprised if this is already being discussed because it would easily allow agents to check for special license requirements that only apply to them, directing them how to share content while remaining in compliance.

trinix912 4 days ago|
That's no better than robots.txt, it's simple to bypass and with the current LLM tech there's lots of plausible deniability regarding the output.
retrocog 1 day ago||
That's absolutely true, so it would have to be a standard like others that comes with consequences for non-compliance (like filtering non-compliant clients). I don't claim to have the implementation, but I do see a need for one.
thedangler 4 days ago||
Tailwind is nice and all be it’s crazy verbose, I still am a fan of bootstrap. In the days of AI and tokens. Tailwind classes and styling cure through tokens. lol
nsmog767 4 days ago||
not the most important point here, but llms.txt won't have any impact on anything anyway.
geenat 4 days ago|
I'm fairly convinced these are bot / LLM generated PR's in the first place; the content is nonsensical garbage.
b34r 4 days ago||
No, I spent many hours of my personal time on it.
llmslave2 4 days ago||
You spent many hours of your personal time trying to enable AI companies to better steal OSS work?

Dude get a better hobby or something lol

b34r 4 days ago||
What? That's not what this does at all. Educate yourself. It has nothing to do with the commercial side of his business, it's just the already public docs in cleaned up pure text form.
MangoCoffee 3 days ago||
If your business can easily be replaced or lose revenue because of AI, it doesn't sound like a good business model to begin with
another_twist 4 days ago||
The issue seems to be that LLMs already consumed large parts of the templatized code somewhere. Not directly from TW but from some other project. Codex / Claude are also exceptionally good at whipping out a UI quickly even when given flimsy requirements. Its hard running this business and competing against a several billion dollar machine. Wonder how Material UI is doing as they have a similar business model.
b34r 3 days ago||
It's important to remember this is just the commercial arm. The OSS side has as many maintainers as Adam allows and the community is quite active with PRs and volunteer work. Tailwind the project will be ok. Someone will fork it if stales thanks to its popularity. That being said, many more companies should sponsor considering its ubiquitous adoption.
cjk 4 days ago||
I'm a Tailwind Plus customer in spite of not being the world's biggest Tailwind fan. Even though it really grinds my gears how unreadable markup can be when littered with Tailwind classes, I appreciate the quality and variety of the templates and components available in Tailwind Plus and the constant (free!) updates. So this is a bummer to hear. Many thanks to Adam and the team.
schlap 4 days ago||
Tailwind UI could be the missing piece for AI generated frontend to have consistency, but it seems that shadcn took that place in the last 3-5 years.
damsta 4 days ago|
Companies like Vercel, Lovable, and Stackblitz should pay salaries to each of these engineers. Their business succeeded only because Tailwind exists.
koakuma-chan 4 days ago||
Companies like Vercel, Lovable, and Stackblitz should dissolve because their existence is a net negative for humanity.
Jonathanvw 4 days ago||
Why is there existence a net negative for humanity?
koakuma-chan 4 days ago||
Same reason as tobacco companies.
nickmonad 4 days ago|||
I agree with the sentiment that companies should help fund open source they depend on, but I think it's a stretch to say those business succeeded "only" because of Tailwind. It's a great project, although I'm pretty sure they would have figured out a way to work with CSS without it.
suyash 4 days ago||
Welcome to the internet, most of it is build by unknown OSS developers, how many people will you go ask these companies to pay for?
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