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Posted by stefanvdw1 1/10/2026

Open Chaos: A self-evolving open-source project(www.openchaos.dev)
415 points | 86 commentspage 2
polyomino 1/10/2026|
They should automate reading hacker news comments and generating PRs to address them
staticassertion 1/10/2026|
Open a PR and suggest this.
jibal 1/11/2026||
You can't just "suggest" something in a PR, you have to provide the change.
staticassertion 1/11/2026||
Okay, open claude code, tell it to open a PR
fullstackwife 1/10/2026||
Should votes get invalidated after major change in the ongoing PR?
Lerc 1/11/2026||
Votes should remain. Have a criteria for invalidating candidates.

Anything beyond a certain age, and anything with unresolved conflicts gets stood down and requires a fresh nomination.

ewidar 1/11/2026||
Not sure you can "cancel" github reactions of other users
noncoml 1/10/2026||
Reading through the comments, it’s remarkable how many of us have had the same idea at some point

Beautifully executed

BinaryIgor 1/10/2026||
Are guardrails, CI/CD, to make code at least compile-able and require minimal quality standards also possible to change via PR or managed somewhere else? With this possibility, it might went into oblivion indeed!
6r17 1/10/2026|
I mean.... it's the spirit of the project to eventually be able to reach to that state. I freaking love that project woaw hahaha
kittikitti 1/10/2026||
This is a very interesting experiment where I hope the metamorphosis is more like a butterfly than Kafka.
Esophagus4 1/10/2026|
Yes, this could end up either turning into a Linux or like when Microsoft released Tay and Twitter users taught it to be a Nazi. Or anywhere in between, really.
jibal 1/10/2026||
It really can't for numerous reasons, one of them being that PRs have to be fairly low effort, and this will be even more so if the popular "merge daily" PR is voted in. People talk about this "evolving", but it's nothing like biological evolution or genetic algorithms. It's just a linear sequence of small changes, and without either planning and central authority or some stable fitness function (the ecological environment in biological evolution) the changes are directionless.
Esophagus4 1/12/2026|||
> the changes are directionless.

I guess we’ll see whether that turns out to be true! Will be a fun experiment to watch, at least.

fc417fc802 1/11/2026|||
> some stable fitness function

The participants could always vote to add a test harness and CI/CD to vet pull requests against.

jibal 1/11/2026||
That has nothing to do with a stable fitness function ... an external set of factors that determine which changes allow offspring to survive. This thing doesn't have offspring (or always has exactly one offspring and then the parent dies) and it survives until the whole thing collapses.

And I think they already have what you describe or something like it ... PRs have to build and survive CI.

fc417fc802 1/11/2026||
It should have been abundantly clear that wasn't the way the word "evolution" was being used here to being with. (Actually the comment you replied to used the word "metamorphosis" so what are you even going on about?)

Nonetheless, if you're going to quibble that it isn't ahckchtually evolution because it's missing a fitness function then I'm going to counter that you can form a loose analogy so long as you have some fitness apparatus that's conceptually and operationally separable from the implementation itself. I think some unit tests and a CI pipeline is sufficient.

jibal 1/11/2026||
> It should have been abundantly clear that wasn't the way the word "evolution" was being used here to being with.

My whole point was that the sort of evolution that this will undergo isn't like biological evolution so it won't be effective the way biological evolution is. That should have been abundantly clear.

> Actually the comment you replied to used the word "metamorphosis" so what are you even going on about?

Did you ever bother to look upthread? I wrote "People talk about this "evolving"", and that comment was not a response to the one mentioning metamorphosis. See the title: "Open Chaos: A self-evolving open-source project"

I'm not quibbling and that's an offensive accusation as is your "ahckchtually" mocking as well as the rude tone of your clueless whooshes above so I will only respond you this once. Biological evolution has powerful mechanisms that this lacks ... in fact the biggest lack is that there's just one "organism" here, not a population, and just one change at a time. And your fitness function only determines whether something compiles and runs; it gives no direction to the "evolution" ... it's not being fit to anything that drives its progress (the choices come from the PRs, not from the fitness function, and they are independent of each other or at best loosely coupled--thus they aren't stable) which I explicitly pointed out previously when I mentioned the fitness function. So your "loose analogy" fails miserably and this thing is going to be directionless, as I said, and so it won't build up something like a Linux kernel or AGI (both of these have been mentioned, but hey, not in the comment that used the word "metamorphosis" -- apparently I have to say this).

SubiculumCode 1/10/2026||
Firefox warns of a security threat when I visit the site.
omoikane 1/10/2026||
Maybe Firefox is prescient, just waiting for someone to create a problematic pull request that does something untoward while simultaneously locking everyone else from submitting pull requests (and get a bunch of bots to upvote it in the last second before the merge window closes).
WithinReason 1/10/2026||
Merging the security threat is yet to be voted on
alexpadula 1/10/2026||
You know it’s kinda like a lottery the more I read it lol! If the repo got super popular and had lots of traffic say.
stingraycharles 1/10/2026||
Am I the only one who's noticing that this "open chaos" project's most voted PRs are to add structure to the project (e.g., calculate +1/-1, etc.)?

I guess people just desire a certain amount of structure to their chaos :)

hmokiguess 1/11/2026||
Can’t have one without the other
aalimov_ 1/11/2026||
“Convenient chaos”
alexpadula 1/10/2026||
Sorry to be a party pooper I just don’t get the point.
izietto 1/10/2026||
I don't think there's a point. You can always submit a point, if it gets voted you will have your point
stingraycharles 1/10/2026||
This is exactly the point.
Towaway69 1/10/2026||
It's a bit like bigtech but instead of product people voting on what gets merged, everyone gets a vote here.
fwipsy 1/10/2026|
Twitch plays Github?
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