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Posted by amarsahinovic 1 day ago

AI is a business model stress test(dri.es)
289 points | 275 commentspage 2
rcarr 8 hours ago|
In my opinion, governments are going to have to tax the big tech companies hard and distribute the money to funding bodies like Arts Council. I can see a future "Tech Council" for open source software organisations to apply for funding. It'll get to the point where every OSS developer has their own Community Interest Company or join with a few other devs to create a CIO in order to acquire funding.

Of course, now you're opening a whole other can of worms. In the UK, only 1 in 9 Arts Council funding applications is successful.

avidiax 1 day ago||
To call it a stress "test" is dismissive.

A stress test on a bank doesn't actually erase the revenue and financially jeopardize the bank.

Implementing layoffs is not a stress test.

lacoolj 1 day ago||
Companies providing AI services should offer ads for the things the AI is using. And I don't mean "Tailwind could pay Google to advertise in Gemini", I mean "Google should be clearly and obviously linking back to Tailwind when it uses the library in its output"

They already do this sort of thing inside outputs from Deep Research, and possibly without. But the output should be less muted, inline, recessed and more "I have used Tailwind! Check out how to make it better [HERE](link)"

They should be working with the owners of these projects, especially ones with businesses, and directing traffic to them. Not everyone will go, and that's fine, but at least make the effort. The infrastructure is in place already.

And yes, right now this would not be across-the-board for every single library, but maybe it could be one day?

It's the same problem news sites have been facing for years because of Google News and Facebook. Their solution so far has been country-level bans on it (Canada).

nitwit005 1 day ago||
But why would you click the tailwinds link if you're getting correct answers? You don't need documentation or consulting.

Google and Facebook couldn't provide full news articles because of copyright law. They just showed headline and summary provided by the news websites (and still eventually got sued for showing the summaries).

camdenreslink 23 hours ago|||
The number one rule of these apps is don’t link outside the app (because then the user will stop their session).
AlienRobot 22 hours ago||
I feel that the battle is already lost when we aren't arguing that the AI service must get a license from the copyright holder like everybody else, but instead just arguing how many crumbs is the AI service morally obliged to throw back.
techblueberry 1 day ago||
This feels like the OpenSSL problem where we do probably need some kind of industry organization to maintain these things. There’s a chicken and the egg problem that these AI companies need someone to keep maintaining tailwind if they want it to keep working in their prompts.

Maybe that limits the ability for the head of tailwind to run their own business and make more income, but something gotta give.

bob1029 1 day ago|
> we do probably need some kind of industry organization to maintain these things.

In the case of CSS, we already have that:

https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/Overview.en.html

mrgoldenbrown 1 day ago|||
Are you saying the www consortium should be paying to keep Tailwind development and maintenance going? The css standard is not the same as a usable library of components.
aurareturn 23 hours ago|||
Tailwind is open source. Anyone can contribute to it, including an LLM.

If the founder of Tailwind quits on it, others who deem Tailwind valuable enough will continue to maintain it.

zephen 20 hours ago|||
> others who deem Tailwind valuable enough will continue to maintain it.

We have seen several examples in the last couple of years where this is simply not true enough. There are multiple open source projects that do not receive enough TLC.

aurareturn 13 hours ago|||
Then it isn't important enough to people.

If my company relies on an open source project and it isn't being maintained, I can either ask my company to start maintaining it or find something else or accept the risk of a an unmaintained project.

HumanOstrich 6 hours ago|||
You're just parroting what you've heard. The reality of continuing an abandoned project is not that simple.
terribleidea 1 day ago|||
The problem here is that the w3c sucks a fat one, and they've failed to build software specs that don't require an ecosystem thousands of libraries to make using CSS, etc. simple or efficient.
xg15 1 day ago||
> So where does value live now? In what requires showing up, not just specifying. Not what you can specify once, but what requires showing up again and again.

Sounds like even more incentive for "managing" problems and creating business models around them instead of solving them.

rglover 6 hours ago|
The flurry machine isn't permanently broken, it's just keeping someone employed.
dev1ycan 5 hours ago||
2-5 years from now after the AI bubble bursts, and they are trying to rent us $300 PCs since every component is 5x the price, we will look back at all the damage and copyright law that was completely bypassed and ignored when it was convenient, after all those years of claiming evil China "stole" from companies (only to then pass laws where they can virtually steal anything they want, even utilizing private repositories on Github that they acquired by buying the site, completely ignoring the licenses)...

Or how Meta downloaded 70tb+ of books and then got law enforcement to nuke libgen and z-lib to create a "moat", and all our tools start dying/disappearing because the developers are laid off since an AI "search engine" just regurgitates it, THEN and only then will most people understand the mistake that this was.

Let's not even begin with what Grok just recently did to women on X, completely unacceptable, I really, really wish for the EU to grow some and take a stand, it is clear that China is just as predatory as America and both are willing to burn it all in order to get a non existent lead in non existent "technology" that snake oil salesmen have convinced 80 year olds in government that is the next "revolution".

l5870uoo9y 1 day ago||
Killed by AI or competitors offering Tailwind templates and UI kits at a much lower price or for free?
wolpoli 22 hours ago||
Tailwind plus is available for one time payment that provides lifetime access to current and future components. With AI cutting off the flow for new buyers, revenue shrivels up much quicker than what it would've been if it was a recurring subscription.
jamesshelley 1 day ago||
Framing it as a "conduit" disruption might make a lot of assumptions about the fundamental economic value of software in the future. In a world (whether near term or long term) where you can just ask the computer to make whatever software you want, what are the economics of retailing/licensing any software at all? Open source or otherwise?
m4rtink 1 day ago|
So AI is attempting to replace SAP as the traditional way of testing if you company is strong enough ?
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