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Posted by reconnecting 21 hours ago

iCloud Photos Downloader(github.com)
525 points | 206 commentspage 2
bicepjai 18 hours ago|
Thanks for this project. Our family generates about 2TB of media a year, and it’s been like that for a while, so we’re sitting at roughly 12TB total. That’s very much the long tail of personal media.

I’m not ready to pay $60/month, but I do like iCloud’s memories and other photo features. My compromise is simple:

- I use docker-icloudpd to download our iCloud Photos to local storage over time. It’s been the most practical way I’ve found to back up multiple accounts into one place, though it does require occasional re-auth every so often. - I keep only the last ~2 years of media in iCloud and delete older ones after they’re archived locally. - For browsing and searching the older archive, I use Immich, which has been a great self-hosted personal photo cloud experience with a modern app feel.

For storage, I’ve found fast local disk matters a lot once you’re digging up photos from 5+ years ago. Something like an OWC 4M2 with M.2 drives keeps the experience snappy; a typical HDD-based NAS can feel sluggish when you just want to quickly pull up an old memory.

https://github.com/boredazfcuk/docker-icloudpd

stavros 18 hours ago|
Does Photos have features you use that Immich doesn't? I've switched to the latter fully and love it (though I have an Android).
nicbou 6 hours ago|||
How much work is it to maintain an Immich instance? I'm trying to keep my digital setup lean, but I can't find a simple way to get photos off my iPhone and onto my home server. One way synchronization is my only goal. Extra features are not desired.
stavros 6 hours ago||
I change a line in the Dockerfile to upgrade it every few months, that's it. Otherwise it's zero.
QuiEgo 12 hours ago||||
Encryption at rest. If someone breaks into my house and steals my server I'd rather they not be able to get data. I can do LUKS but I really want the data to only ever be decrypted client side.
bicepjai 18 hours ago|||
Music and AI features are still lagging in Immich, and I can understand why. Immich machine learning is not flushed out yet. If Immich has plans for creating marketplace for extensibility like plugins, in the current era of Claude code, I am sure we will end up with many options or features.
tentacleuno 5 hours ago||
Music? Like a music library? Wouldn't Subsonic be miles better for that?
bicepjai 59 minutes ago||
Like Memories feature in Apple which uses media to make short form video but also picks and plays music with them. We love those videos. Enabling feature like that involves understanding metadata and media and music.
cleanexit0 9 hours ago||
This looks useful. I ran into a very similar problem recently and ended up building a small tool for my own use: https://github.com/cleanexit0/darwin-photos

It's macOS-only and intentionally minimal — the goal is just to download originals from iCloud Photos to disk without syncing everything into Photos.app first.

To be clear on limitations: it doesn't preserve albums or other metadata yet, and it's not meant to replace more full-featured tools. It’s mainly for the "I just want my photos off iCloud for backup" case.

Reading the comments here, it sounds like metadata preservation is a big pain point for many people — I'd be curious whether that's the first thing folks would want added, or if simple bulk export already covers most needs.

rgovostes 20 hours ago||
My concern with backing up iCloud Photos with anything but Apple Photos is that there are some proprietary formats like Live Photos and slow mo video for which exports are lossy. Also, Apple Photos stores all edits non-destructively, so 'flattening' the edits into a single file for export is also a lossy operation.

It seems like an obvious improvement for Time Machine to support full backups while using optimized storage on the primary system.

jaffa2 57 minutes ago||
This. I don't understand why Apple don't have another checkbox beside the Download Originals to this Mac that reads 'Store Backup of Original Photos on Timemachine' This is all that's needed to solve the issue. I actually bought a Mac Studio, and a USB disk, just to be able to download originals of my photos for local backup, since a MBP is effetively a mobil limited device just like an iphone.

"I actually bought a Mac Studio"... "I don't understand why Apple don't " ... wait a minute

fn-mote 20 hours ago|||
How about just turning off optimized storage and letting Time Machine do its job?
rgovostes 19 hours ago||
I have a 1.2T photo library. Carrying that around on my MacBook requires an $800 upgrade to the SSD.

Time Machine's job is to back up my data, it's not strictly to make a 1:1 copy of local storage. It should back up my cloud data too.

mrexroad 19 hours ago||
My library is large too (roughly a third larger). After years of far more complicated storage/backup solutions, I settled w/ a second Photos library on an external hdd w/ optimize storage disabled. I plug the drive in and open this library every so often to update and then duplicate the drive for an off-site copy. Day to day, I use a Photos library on my primary drive with optimize storage enabled.

I’ve found unreasonable value in being able to search through hundreds of thousands of photos from my phone, so I went all-in on Photos.app. Though one enabling factor is that my photography workflow has drastic simplified in recent years to doing very little post (except for astrophotography, which I try and keep wip out of Photos.app anyway).

nik_0_0 12 hours ago||
I had tried this but found it a little bit weird - switching back and forth on the same device between the 'hard drive w/ full files' library and the 'primary drive optimize storage' didn't really seem easy.

IIRC Photos.app will not even open if the default library you are pointing at is not there (i.e drive was unplugged). Are you able to just open up the library file directly and it will work as expected?

I also recall when changing Photos.app back to the HDD Library it did a ~2h 'rebuild' session before it even started downloading the new photos, but maybe thats acceptable with the 'every so often' approach.

lostlogin 20 hours ago|||
Could the first obvious improvement please be its speed? My god. The local Time Machine backup is slower on a 10gb network than Backblaze over the Internet. It isn’t even close.
rgovostes 19 hours ago|||
I reinstalled my system and attempted for weeks to get Time Machine to complete a first backup. Every time I started it, the progress bar would fill up about 60% and then stall, and eventually kernel panic if the system was left idle for hours. Never happened before I reinstalled, though I have had it randomly decide the backup is corrupt and it has to start over. macOS deserves a better first-party backup feature.
lostlogin 19 hours ago||
> I have had it randomly decide the backup is corrupt and it has to start over.

I have hit this too many times.

varenc 19 hours ago||||
I backup ~3-4GB a day with Time Machine to my local NAS and it takes less 10 minutes. Albeit it should take 30 seconds if it was maxing out the network speed.
lostlogin 19 hours ago||
I’ve done the sudo sysctl debug.lowpri_throttle_enabled=0. But it’s still slow.

10 minutes is great, and my changes wouldn’t seem as extensive as yours. I need to dig deeper.

dangus 20 hours ago|||
Asking for anything out of Time Machine is a lost cause. It’s essentially a completed and legacy product.

I migrated to Linux + Pika Backup. For photos I use Ente Photos with their managed cloud storage plus a continuous export to my NAS.

Ente is surprisingly well integrated with iOS, you really don’t need to use Apple’s solution. It automatically backs up photos I take in the background.

kimos 17 hours ago|||
I’ve used this tool for years and it’s great. But it really saves just the raw data. You’d never get it back in to Apple Photos as nice as when you pulled it out. Metadata is missing. Live Photos come out as an image and a similarly named video. But I treat it as the emergency backup. If some Apple DC burns down or they ban my Apple ID for some reason, at least the photos still exist.
SchemaLoad 18 hours ago|||
The most annoying thing for me is if you set the date for a photo, it gets stored externally rather than modifying the photo metadata. So when you switch platform, every photo which didn't originally have a captured at date ends up reset to the current day every time you move.

For edits, I don't care too much about just baking them in since it's unlikely I'm going back to old photos and want to undo the crop.

dangus 20 hours ago||
In my experience migrating to another provider from iCloud, this hasn’t been a significant issue. Live Photos in particular are not really proprietary in the sense that they’re implemented in an extremely simple way that basically every photo tool understands. ~~Slow motion videos are also not proprietary, they’re just a plain video file.~~ <<< edit: I think I’m wrong about slow motion
rgovostes 20 hours ago||
> Slow motion videos are also not proprietary, they’re just a plain video file.

I haven't looked into the implementation details, but Photos lets you adjust the section of the video that is played back in slow motion. I thought if you share a slow-mo video, it gets re-encoded to bake this in (i.e., one second at 240fps gets exported as four seconds at 60fps).

rykc 16 hours ago||
Wish I’d seen this 3 days ago. Needed to backup our Shared Library and did the following (about 10K photos/videos at 300gb, had enough space so full downloaded to MacBook, not optimize. 1. Repair iPhoto library, (Wait 24 hrs to re-sync to iCloud) - initially looks like it moved all photos to personal. 2. Select small chunks, by year worked well enough - selecting All gave me the spinning ball. Then export unmodified to external hdd into folders organized by year. 3. Moved entire photo library file to another external hdd. 4. Open iPhoto and select external hdd library as primary library, let it re-sync to iCloud (Wait 24 hrs). iPhoto now running off external HDD library and I’ll backup to separate external HDD monthly. Repair function and wired Ethernet connection were biggest game changers to previous attempts.
nathancahill 15 hours ago|
Is there any difference in moving Photos Library.photoslibrary to an external HDD and then pointing Photos.app at that?
jaffa2 54 minutes ago|||
There's some technical reason (or non-reason) why Mac OS does not accept the System photolibrary on an external disk. It prevents certain things from happening which may or may not mater to you. Otherwise you can switch librarys by holding Option during photo bootup.
rykc 14 hours ago|||
Not in my experience, previously ran it setup externally with a shared library for at least a year or longer, https://support.apple.com/en-ca/108345. Typically I backup to external drive 2 ways, copy of library itself and unmodified export, only had to go through above after I needed to rebuild the laptop. OP app and or https://photosbackup.app/ , seems like they might enhance my setup, will have to take a closer look.
DHPersonal 19 hours ago||
Parachute Backup is a tool I use: https://parachuteapps.com/parachute
jeanofthedead 20 hours ago||
I'm a big fan of Parachute Backup for this purpose. https://parachuteapps.com/parachute
monocularvision 18 hours ago|
Do you know if this supports multiple users? Can’t find mention of it in the site.
axpy906 20 hours ago||
This great. I want to switch to android but the only thing stopping me is eight years of photos. No more.
neilalexander 19 hours ago||
You can go to https://privacy.apple.com, log in with your Apple ID, select "Request to transfer a copy of your data" and then select "iCloud photos and videos to Google Photos".
wrxd 20 hours ago||
If your end goal is to move the photos to Google photos have a look at https://support.google.com/photos/answer/10502587?sjid=13067...
jeremymaluf 18 hours ago||
Does anyone have any idea for why Apple makes it so difficult to keep photos downloaded?

For context, try tapping 'optimize photos' in iPhone storage settings and then figure out how to turn off the feature without using Google. Not only is the toggle nearly impossible to find, but it's also hidden from being searchable

deafpolygon 18 hours ago|
> For context, try tapping 'optimize photos' in iPhone storage settings

Same place it’s always been. In Settings -> App -> Photos, toggle Download and Keep Originals. Same place it is for macOS as well. It’s not that magical. Search for “photos icloud” and you’ll be led to the setting for it.

CSDude 20 hours ago||
All my vertical videos in iCloud show up cropped horizontal for some reason. If I go to edit I see the whole video. I really do not want to trust any cloud provider to maintain my years of archives of family photos and videos. Glad things like this exist. I just need properly date-foldered files, without no duplciates. Is that so hard?
Angostura 20 hours ago||
Sounds like the contact sheet view is just using square preview thumbails?
CamperBob2 12 hours ago||
All my vertical videos in iCloud show up cropped horizontal for some reason.

Turn your phone? /ducks

crossroadsguy 17 hours ago|
I used to use the Photos desktop app to move my photos (“select from the app and drop into a folder somewhere” worked best) to a separate folder a lot (and regularly) until I started using ente. Now ente not only backs up to their e2ee cloud but its desktop app keeps those media synced to the OS of my choice on my laptop.

But I can still not escape Apple’s gonorrhoeic naming and organisation.

Pro: FOSS of course; it works, with limitations (that’s mostly Apple) and glitches (that’s entirely ente)

Cons: really subpar non-native apps (desktop app is quite a dumb app as well) :( (and barely and useful additional features that lets a user do some batch/organisational changes or so)

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