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Posted by mikece 1/12/2026

Xfce is great(rubenerd.com)
316 points | 248 commentspage 4
jmclnx 1/12/2026|
I am a fvwm person, but if I had to use a desktop environment, xfce would be my first choice. I find it works great for me. Once it ends up on Wayland and I am forced to use Wayland, right now xfce will be my choice.

Only one thing I wish I could set, allow windows to cover the 'bar'. Yes, I can make the bar auto-hide, but I cannot have a portion of it covered by a window.

The same is true for GNOME, but KDE it is allowed. I expect this is a gtk thing.

ReallyOldLurker 1/14/2026|
> Only one thing I wish I could set, allow windows to cover the 'bar'. Yes, I can make the bar auto-hide, but I cannot have a portion of it covered by a window.

If I understand your comment correctly, right click on the Panel --> Panel Preferences, Display tab. Checkmark "Keep panel above windows". This allows windows to use the panel section of the screen. Combine with "Automatically hide the panel: intelligently".

enricotr 1/12/2026||
If someone somehow enlarge the 1px handle for windows resizing by default (not default theme) I can say 'it's perfect'.
Daunk 1/12/2026||
That is not XFCE itself, that is up to your theme. I'm on the Dracula theme and have about 16 pixels.
hxorr 1/12/2026||
Are there any themes that allow changing window border size, title bar size, scrollbar width etc, like win 9x?
ReallyOldLurker 1/14/2026||
My scrollbar changes in Debian:

1. as root, edit /etc/environment and add: GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0

2. in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css add: .scrollbar.vertical slider, scrollbar.vertical slider {min-width: 10px;}

ReallyOldLurker 1/14/2026|||
Here is a reference regarding window borders: https://mxlinux.org/wiki/xfce/changing-border-size-with-xfce...
pred_ 1/12/2026||
The workaround for me is to always resize by clicking Alt, right click, and drag. At the end of the day, that's probably just straight up easier, since you never need to bother getting close to the borders of the windows.
Daunk 1/12/2026||
I recommend changing the key to Super. As holding down Alt and clicking/dragging is often used by many applications and simply won't work then.
KeybInterrupt 1/12/2026|||
I just learned that you can use Super + Left Mouse to drag windows around and Super + Right Mouse to resize, due to this discussion. I have been using XFCE forever, mostly using hotkeys for tilling, and just did not know :D

Thanks !

avhception 1/12/2026||
Huh, I'm over 10 years in and didn't know about the rightclick-resize either. I really like it! Thanks!
bmacho 1/12/2026|||
Yes, it is best to use Meta/Windows key for system related actions (copy/paste, screenshot, application start, various windowing actions), and let Ctrl and Alt be used by the applications.
downsplat 1/12/2026||
I've used Xfce exclusively since Gnome jumped the shark many years ago. It's fast, does the job nicely, and stays out of your way. I do hope they get stable on Wayland sometime soon, because X11 seems to have lost its momentum, and I would probably like to enable fractional scaling on my next laptop.
rabf 1/12/2026|
You do not need fractional scaling, just set the correct dpi in settings and use a high dpi theme.
kamikazechaser 1/12/2026||
I used XFCE (MxLinux) for 5 years until recently when I moved to KDE Plasma (Fedora) because of Wayland support. Imo, KDE is better and more resource efficient. I also got a free 10 fps boost on DotA 2 on the same hardware and settings. Zed and a lot of other apps are better supported on Wayland.
kstenerud 1/12/2026||
I really wanted to like XFCE, but the tiny tiny window grab area for resizing is just too damn frustrating.
quchen 1/12/2026||
You can configure a window resize hotkey. I use Win+(drag the window with right mouse) and it resizes it i the way you expect, moving the corner closest to the cursor. Left click would move the window instead of resizing.

This is by far my favorite way to resize and I don't know why it's not an industry standard.

iancoleman 1/12/2026||
The default config for this is to use Alt+(right-click drag) to resize and Alt+(left-click drag) to move.

I use this so much once I found it, this solved my frustration with the tiny resize border on the window itself.

This setting can be found in Settings > Window Manager Tweaks > Accessibility > Key used to grab and move windows: Alt

dgan 1/12/2026|||
I have deleted all window decorations and use F... keys to manipulate resize/move. But you could totally increase the height instead of deleting them
kstenerud 1/12/2026||
Yup, there are hacky workarounds, but what I'm after is the industry standard of grab areas that extend beyond the visible borders of the windows (which became more popular as high DPI monitors became the norm - and then Apple recently took to excess). And this is something the XFCE team have expressly said that they will NOT do.

And so I moved on to Mate.

dgan 1/12/2026||
I installed Fedora + gnome onnmy new Framework, it definitely works better out of the box, but i dislike the design :/
augustk 1/12/2026|||
Should be easy to correct the default behavior for the next release if the issue is reported.
pndy 1/12/2026|||
I learned to grab to resize windows in XFCE from upper right corner exactly because of this
jojobas 1/12/2026|||
It is configurable by theme or by changing something like bottom-active.xpm size.
davidgerard 1/12/2026||
alt-rightclick anywhere in the vague vicinity of a corner and you've grabbed it.
maqnius 1/12/2026||
Is there something like a tilling extension for xfce? Not snappy corners but actually tilling by default?

I'm currently on popos (using GNOME) and enjoy the tilling of its GNOME extension. Actual tilling wms were too hackish for me whenever I tried them.

benrutter 1/12/2026||
I don't think so - have you tried popOS's latest Cosmic DE though? I think it's in Beta now - it's a written from scratch desktop environment, that puts the tiling extension like behavior as a first class citizen.

If you wanted something more lightweight and minimal, but complete with tiling, it's a good option.

intheitmines 1/12/2026||
i3 + xfce works well for this
tmtvl 1/12/2026||
I used to like Xfce until KDE 4 won me over. Since Xfce switched to GTK 3, though... if you put Thunar and the Xfce system settings next to each other they don't look like they're part of the same project and that's a shame.
rich_sasha 1/12/2026||
I used to be on Gnome when it was the old interface (windows XP style), then moved to MATE. Never used Xfce. How does it compare to MATE? I remember mate being ever so slightly unstable (not sure if it was HW compatibility issues).
Nursie 1/13/2026|
Xfce and MATE are fairly similar in a lot of ways. Back in the day Xfce had more emphasis on being lightweight than Gnome 2 did.

In terms of being able to put your UI elements wherever you want, being simple, configurable and non-opinionated, it's all very similar. I would assume (could be wrong) that Xfce is under more active development than Mate.

I made the switch when Gnome 2 was killed overnight, and Mate didn't yet exist. My Xfce desktop looks a lot like my Gnome 2 desktops used to. I've never felt the need to switch to anything else or 'back' to Mate.

tsoukase 1/12/2026||
When I read about the awesomeness of Wayland I become tempted to try it. Then I remember I am immersed in Xfce4 which I can never leave and I forget it. Really, Wayland Vs Xfce is the current war of DEs.
emilfihlman 1/12/2026|
I used to use XFCE a lot, but since then, even though it sucks in its own ways quite a lot, Gnome defaults to a nicer environment nowadays and doesn't seem so resource intensive anymore.
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