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Posted by reconnecting 4 hours ago

Ai, Japanese chimpanzee who counted and painted dies at 49(www.bbc.com)
66 points | 26 comments
comrade1234 1 hour ago|
My coworkers gifted me a painting by cheeta (the last chimp to play him) when I left the job. I framed it professionally in rattan and banana wood. The painting itself looks very similar to the paintings by Ai- same color schemes and patterns.

Edit to add instead of a new comment: I also remember how good of a life he had in retirement. He lived in an apartment-like dwelling. Slept in a bed, woke up and ate some fruit. Would plink on the piano awhile, maybe paint some, go for a swim or walk, maybe play the piano or paint some more.... it was amusing to read while slaving away at the coding mines.

shevy-java 2 hours ago||
I misread this as AI initially ...

The only art-centric monkey I knew was Koko, the female gorilla.

Here she draws some things:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iixL0CMOAM

Smartest monkey I ever saw was Kanzi though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENKinbfgrkU

I think it is only a question and matter of time before the prison systems for monkeys may have to be reconsidered completely. Of course even smarter monkeys than Kanzi won't reach human brain functions, but they are also very convincingly extremely clever and can adapt. Numerous videos where monkeys handle (!) smartphones show this already and this is just the beginning. Like, in the movie Planet of the Apes. Just long-term in smaller steps.

conception 46 minutes ago||
Fun fact! Koko’s abilities to sign and communicate were a total fraud!

https://bigthink.com/life/ape-sign-language/

ChrisMarshallNY 1 hour ago|||
Don't call him a monk- aaaaarghhh...

https://discworld.fandom.com/wiki/The_Librarian

dejj 1 hour ago|||
"I think this was a powerful lesson on the dangers of AI. Which by the way means 'love' in Chinese."

Elon Tusk, Rick and Morty, S4E4: https://youtu.be/xQHCz9ZZorA?t=129

navigate8310 1 hour ago|||
Here's Rambo, an orangutan, driving a golf cart in Dubai: https://youtu.be/ERTrOwEb5M8
brap 1 hour ago|||
Koko, that chimp’s alright.
bbor 59 minutes ago|||
And before someone comes in to correct: yes, we're monkeys. No, the taxonomists don't know any better! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey
jennyholzer6 29 minutes ago||
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mrintegrity 2 hours ago||
Would love to see some of his paintings, let me just google "AI chimp painting" .. oh..
fyltr 2 hours ago|
There are some of them in this article https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10329-017-0604-0
mrintegrity 2 hours ago||
Thanks, they seem like more than just random splashes of color.. possibly I'm anthropomorphising but it feels like it was straining to draw something specific like a young child would.
shevy-java 1 hour ago|||
Yes, same with Koko. I think they do not fully understand art and abstraction, nor profits made by good art. It is too abstract.

They can, however had, understand sign language and symbol language, and basically that art is also an abstraction. Will probably take a while before we can identify abstract art by apes.

baxtr 2 hours ago||||
It’s hardly distinguishable from modern art though!
falloutx 1 hour ago|||
Hey, she did her best.
aix1 2 hours ago||
More about Ai: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10329-017-0604-0
walthamstow 2 hours ago||
> Born wild, Ai was soon taken into captivity and sold to KUPRI in 1977 by an animal trader (this type of sale became illegal in 1980 with Japan's ratification of CITES).

So how do we do this kind of thing now?

shevy-java 1 hour ago||
I think monkeys are still bred in some zoos. I know that because there is typically media outrage when monkeys are killed in zoos when they were overbred. It's a very questionable system, since they are basically prisoners, then kind of forced or encouraged to breed, and then whacked to death when there are "too many". It's weird because zoos also claim to help preserve some species.
brador 1 hour ago||
Why should we?
beaker52 1 hour ago||
Sleep easy fellow earthling, there’s a new Ai in town now.
echelon_musk 2 hours ago||
Reminds me of AiAi in Super Monkey Ball.
eej71 17 minutes ago|
Glad to see I wasn't the only one! That Super Monkey Ball game on the GameCube was just amazing.
fedeb95 2 hours ago||
does someone have a video about him counting and/or painting?
Sirikon 2 hours ago||
Hey universe, when people is asking for the end of AI, they don't mean this.
hxugufjfjf 2 hours ago|
Impossible to not make a joke about this being just more ai news on the front page.
slfnflctd 27 minutes ago||
Apparently, since the majority of top level comments right now - about 6 at the time of my comment - are making basically the same joke.

I thought this place was supposed to be better than reddit in such ways. Do better, HN.

jennyholzer6 22 minutes ago||
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