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Posted by publicdebates 2 days ago

Ask HN: How can we solve the loneliness epidemic?

Countless voiceless people sit alone every day and have no one to talk to, people of all ages, who don't feel that they can join any local groups. So they sit on social media all day when they're not at work or school. How can we solve this?
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alsetmusic 2 days ago|
Shutting down social media would help. Unrealistic, but true.
silexia 17 hours ago||
Super easy... Just quit being selfish and fulfill the biological purpose of life every textbook describes: have a family. I have five kids and am the happiest and most content I've been in life.
makebelievelol 2 days ago||
Well, AI has provided a solution for this, but I don't think the crowd here would like the answer.

Go to reddit.com/r/fictosexual or reddit.com/r/MyBoyfriendIsAI/ and see for yourself.

pmg101 1 day ago||
Loneliness is bad, but other people are worse.
AnimalMuppet 2 days ago||
Why do they feel they can't join any local groups? Fix that.
parpfish 2 days ago||
i wonder if a resurgence in social clubs like the Elks club/Moose lodge would ever catch on.

i don't know how big they ever were in the past, but it seemed like it was commonly represented in media in the 50s/60s (e.g., the flintstones had a parody of the lodge which would suggest that they were common enough that people were familiar)

publicdebates 2 days ago|||
I posted a comment that gives a few of my thoughts as to why. How do you propose those problems be solved?
AnimalMuppet 2 days ago||
Well, first, props to you because you're actually doing something to initiate contact. That's a really big deal; more people need to do that. (Maybe even some that don't wrestle with loneliness.)

But what's you're next step? Someone comes up and marks that they feel really lonely. Do you get contact information? Invite them to something? (Invite them to what? You may have to create something - a board game night at your house, or a "lonely people shopping together" time at a grocery store, or something. You probably have to create that "something", because you're the one who's able to at least reach out, and the ones who are responding probably aren't there yet.)

You're finding people that need something. The next step is to find a way to connect them - with you, or with each other, or with someone.

For any activity you come up with, some people won't be able to, due to time or temperament or personality or something. So maybe what you need is more than one. (Eventually. Look, don't get overwhelmed by that. Just one is the next step, in my view. And maybe some helpers.)

publicdebates 2 days ago||
So your proposal is to start an ad hoc friend group with people who come up to me, and try to become friends with them personally?

I'm not sure I'm the right person for that. I live in a suburb, not the city that I do the surveys in. And I'm extraordinarily boring, and too old.

It seems that I should try to think bigger. Try to find a way to help these people connect with each other. Something in person, not an app like Hinge. Maybe, hold a sign that says ad hoc meet and greet at such and such time and place, after collecting a list of common interests and putting those interests on the same sign that says the time and date. That could work.

notenoughhorses 2 days ago||
In my city, an older guy organized an “urban hiking group” where he would plan walking routes through the city, usually stopping at a restaurant for brunch. It was very popular, but probably a lot of work. He was semi-retired, so he had the time to do it. He did research to have talking points on the history of some spots we passed, like a tour guide.

It was a great low key meet up. You didn’t have to make friends with the organizer. If you were walking with someone you didn’t really like in the group, it was easy to drift to talk to someone else.

mise_en_place 2 days ago||
Because voluntary association isn't really allowed in the United States. You are forced to associate with people you don't want to, for a variety of reasons.
lbrito 2 days ago||
People are suffering from PCNS. Here is a great documentary about it https://youtu.be/9kqgF5O354E?si=5UMifCZuk_sP71m0
pythonRon 2 days ago||
Ban cell phones.
RamblingCTO 1 day ago||
I felt lonely most of my life. Social anxiety didn't help. Therapy did.

Now I build a life focused on that very much. I go to work at wework, talk to people *everywhere*, joined a bunch of run clubs and just prioritize social stuff. If I don't ask people, walk up to them and say hi, nothing's gonna happen. Reach out to people, say hi, do stuff. Loneliness correlates with low agency I think. Say yes to stuff. Ask people to join for coworking, for going to the gym, a run. Whatever. Go out of your way to increase your social circle. That simple.

And get off your fucking screen and go outside, touch some grass. The internet doesn't help.

siavosh 2 days ago|
At the societal level this trend has been happening for decades, and not just in the west. It’s a global trend correlated with the degree of integration into the “global machine.” This machine commodifies and extracts. It extracts more money if you’re lonely. If you’re isolated. If community is replaced with cold market exchange. If all your needs and wants are solved with a purchase or a monetized distraction.

Yet even when the system makes it hard to imagine anything else, we’re never too far from our true nature. We need only take a step towards a neighbor and carve a space, no matter how small, separate from the machine. That’s the only way out.

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