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Posted by cl3misch 4 hours ago

Just the Browser(justthebrowser.com)
223 points | 96 commentspage 2
s0a 2 hours ago|
there are already a bunch of electron and chromium projects that give you just a simple and highly performant browser sandbox.
thinkindie 3 hours ago||
I noticed that Safari is not mentioned - is it because is not relevant on Desktop or because it didn't go through the same enshittification process as the other two major browsers?
eightnoneone 2 hours ago|
Probably both? I did find its omission spoke loudly. I use it every day on desktop. The only enshitification I have to worry about is Alan Dye’s hit and run crimes against usability.
est 3 hours ago||
can you remove webrtc, localstorage, web workers, and customize fonts?
g947o 2 hours ago|
Half of the websites will stop working if you did that.

And you might as well just fork chromium for that purpose.

account42 2 hours ago|||
Half of the webapps maybe. Actual websites don't have a reason to use any of these features and most don't (except for fonts maybe, but removing those doesn't prevent the website from working).
est 18 minutes ago|||
> Half of the websites

Yes browsers should be used for browsing, those half websites can run on something else.

sbondaryev 3 hours ago||
Nice touch - seeing the Windows 95 IE favicon took me back for a while.
nailer 2 hours ago||
Just give me a Chromium based browser make it open source and a verifiable build and I’ll pay you twenty dollars.
Basketb926 1 hour ago|
Free and open-source browsers based on Chromium: Brave, Dooble, Falkon, Otter, qutebrowser, Supermium, ungoogled-chromium

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)#Free_an...

shevy-java 2 hours ago||
What is sad is that we need anti-AI measures.

Google and others really ruined the web.

I also today tried Qwant and for the first time, in a long while, the results Qwant delivered were objectively better than from Google Search. What the heck is Google doing?

al_borland 1 hour ago||
I've been using Kagi for several years and find it much better than Google. I've not been tempted to go back, like I always was with DuckDuckGo and others.

It seems like Qwant is ad supported[0], yet I don't see any ads in my first couple searches. I wonder if this is a, "the first hit is free", situation, or my ad blocker just took care of it. I do wonder how this will play out long-term.

Qwant did bring up a page when I tried the second search to make me slide something to verify I'm human. That was enough of an annoyance that I will stick with Kagi.

[0] https://help.qwant.com/en/docs/overview/how-does-qwant-make-...

mrweasel 1 hour ago||
> What the heck is Google doing?

Inflating stock prices.

maximgeorge 2 hours ago||
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sonderotis 3 hours ago|
I mean this is an Anti-AI move. I am not saying you should join the pro ai but hating on AI just because its AI is not a good look
sethaurus 2 hours ago||
It's silly to treat this like a totalizing partisan issue where everything must be clearly "pro-ai" or "anti-ai".

Browsers are currently incentivised to add a bunch of new features outside their traditional role. Some people prefer to keep the browser's role simple. It's not ideological and it's not "hating".

mrweasel 1 hour ago|||
Most of the "AI" features added in Firefox makes no sense. They provide very little value to most people, but they are unreasonably hard to disable. Other than jumping the AI bandwagon, I have yet to understand why Mozilla keeps pushing AI features.

Microsoft and Google I can understand, they have AI products they desperately need to monetize or push to as many users as possible, because management bonuses are tied to CoPilot or Gemini adoption.

I don't see it as hating on AI, just because it's AI. It's not wanting pointless AI features in products that don't need them. I've pretty much disabled anything in the ml namespace in about:config in Firefox, because the features are distracting, but provide absolutely no value to me.

publicdebates 3 hours ago|||
I gaurantee you there will be a very popular niche that focuses entirely on being anti-AI, and it will always be around.
BirAdam 2 hours ago||
This niche will get smaller over time. The key hurdle right now is that most "AI" is just LLMs. People currently prefer to go to a website or open a dedicated application for AI inference. As better integrations with other workflows are made and people see them, the resistance will weaken.

Microsoft shoving LLMs into literally everything, including Notepad, is what people are currently hating, because it isn't quite ready.

matkoniecz 3 hours ago||
> but hating on AI just because its AI is not a good look

why not? All things being equal non-AI solution is better. "it is current hyped thing" should bring some downward correction

and of all things to hate, AI hate is harmless and at least partially justified