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Posted by no_creativity_ 1/19/2026

A decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over Bluetooth(bitchat.free)
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ninalanyon 1/19/2026|
Without store and forward you will rarely be able to get messages out of the local area.
zhyder 1/19/2026||
Love it. Wonder if it's viable for citizen journalism in warzones and areas of civil unrest, with the larger size of photos (and short videos), given the inherently slow transfer rates and battery life implications of going thru multiple hops before Internet-exiting the area that's otherwise Internet-offline. What's the back-of-the-envelope math here on viable bandwidth?

Wifi obviously has higher bandwidth, but I guess it isn't viable as a mesh, or is there any trick with turning on/off hotspots on phones dynamically that'd make it viable? (Afaik older phones made you pick between being a hotspot or being a regular wifi client, but at least some newer ones seem to allow both simultaneously.)

I'm definitely hoping for a future with wider support for C2PA (content credentials on images) on phone cameras to make these photos power citizen journalism. So far Samsung S25 and Pixel 10 support C2PA in the camera hardware: need other phone makers (especially Apple) to get on board already... if you're an iPhone user, please help yell at Apple support etc!

Aside: I registered a domain and plan to build a citizen journalism news feed for such photos (and uncut videos). I see it as the antidote to Instagram et al's feeds that're full of AI slop (and plenty of fakery even before AI-generated imagery got big). And it's essential to truth, democracy and ultimately (maybe I'm too idealistic here) peace. Aside to the aside: wish some of us techies banded together to build "peace tech" as a new sector in tech, DM if interested in brainstorming or working together.

duxup 1/19/2026||
Bluetooth range would seem to make this unreliable or useless in many areas?
dim13 1/19/2026||
Finally I see some people around. Was pretty lonely, as it launched.
budududuroiu 1/19/2026||
Seeing Jack committing to this repo is kinda wild to me. I also wish I had fuck-you money and could spend my day engrossed in whatever I find interesting
JumpCrisscross 1/19/2026|
> wish I had fuck-you money and could spend my day engrossed in whatever I find interesting

A good mental exercise is to calculate how much you'd need to survive indefinitely in a pocket of rural America or the third world. No international travel. No bells and whistles. Limited cuisine. But survival and leisure unlimited.

When I've run the numbers for a comforable living, they've come to $300k (Vietnam, $12k/y) to $500k (West Virginia or Portugal $18k/y). But one could halve (or more) those figures by accepting standards of living our grandparents would have found adequate.

Then you make a choice. That world. Or the one you have. (Or something in between.)

Two-fifths of American households have a net worth over $300,000; more than half over $150,000 [1]. That means somewhere between a lot of and potentially most Americans have, on a global scale, fuck-you money. Just not fuck-you money to retain their status at the centre of the first world.

[1] https://dqydj.com/net-worth-percentiles/

niemandhier 1/19/2026|||
Coll idea. One thing: This numbers exclude healthcare costs as you get older this gets more expensive.

For countries with free healthcare, it is usually limited to people working there or citizens and ( in the German case ) recognised refugees.

komali2 1/21/2026|||
In Taiwan you can be on NHI within 6 months of arrival on certain visas. Once you get permanent residency, you're always eligible so long as you keep making monthly payments, which cap out at around 45$usd/month. NHI makes an MRI cost less than 100$ usd. If you don't have NHI you can pay iirc 300$ for an MRI, 100$ for an emergency room visit with blood draw and IV, maybe ~30$/month for buproprion over the counter.
nunobrito 1/19/2026||||
For Portugal the "free" healthcare is extremely generous to anyone staying there, regardless if citizens or not. It does lose money, but then again Germany always pays the bill.
alt227 1/19/2026|||
> Germany always pays the bill

I dont think many people realise just how much European infrastructure Germany actually bankrolls. It is a lot.

niemandhier 1/20/2026|||
Back of the envelop calculation: Portugal gets about 33 “Kampfpanzer Leopard 2” worth of money from Germany via the EU.

If this truly finances universal healthcare in Portugal for everyone, the Portuguese should run the world.

nunobrito 1/20/2026||
Salaries are low and equipment/infrastructure is top notch so the overall deficit per year is about a billion EUR, which is the extra they deduct from our taxes and Germoney. Quality and efficiency of "bang per buck" is decent albeit citizens always complain.

Portuguese did run half the world for a couple of centuries, the most spoken language by natives on the southern part of this planet but quite tiresome to deal with all that, now is more like Italy and prefers quality of life.

0_____0 1/19/2026||||
My health insurance (self employed, high CoL area USA, healthy/not old) is 6k$/yr. Kind of blows up that $18k/yr idea. I don't think it gets that much better if you live in a low CoL area.
JumpCrisscross 1/19/2026|||
> One thing: This numbers exclude healthcare costs as you get older this gets more expensive

For the U.S., yes, I'm assuming Medicare/Medicaid. For overseas: Vietnam and Portugal have affordable systems you can pay into, with private insurance options above that at $1,200 and $5,000 a year.

komali2 1/21/2026||||
I thought fuck-you money also included the ability to explore whatever you want in a way that included e.g. hiring a team to explore projects for you as startups?

Also everyone I know with fuck you money already lives in Asia for cost of living reasons, but spends half the year jet setting to various raves and rich people shenanigans in random places like Croatia.

cedws 1/19/2026||||
American software engineers maybe. But I heard somewhere that most Americans live paycheck to paycheck or at most have a few thousand dollars in savings.
JumpCrisscross 1/19/2026|||
> I heard somewhere that most Americans live paycheck to paycheck or at most have a few thousand dollars in savings

Wealth versus liquidity. I'm saying you sell everything you own, pay off your debts, and then take what's left to retire on. Someone with $10mm in home equity may still be strapped for cash on account of the mortgage.

alt227 1/19/2026|||
> I heard somewhere that most Americans live paycheck to paycheck or at most have a few thousand dollars in savings

If you dont inherently know this fact then you should be grateful for a very lucky and priviliged life.

cedws 1/19/2026||
I don't live in America.
alt227 1/19/2026||
It applies to the entire world.
budududuroiu 1/21/2026||||
I've never seriously considered this, but that's a sobering realisation that most of these numbers are more achievable than most think.

Thanks for the inspiration, I should run my numbers as well.

sgt 1/19/2026|||
WV is probably heavily underrated. Such a beautiful part of the US.
31337Logic 1/19/2026||
I love Briar for this use-case.
senchalover23 1/19/2026||
bithcat is out for like.. a long time. Why is hyping now?
gethly 1/19/2026||
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