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Posted by ksec 10 hours ago

Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results(9to5mac.com)
276 points | 192 commentspage 5
BartjeD 10 hours ago|
Enshittification, the sequel.
stalfosknight 9 hours ago||
Why must Apple do this?

They're already rolling in profits that dwarf the national budgets of most countries. And I say this as a shameless Apple fanboy.

bigyabai 9 hours ago|
Maybe it's time to stop being shameless. The App Store monopoly has a direct impact on the quality of first-party services you consume.
stalfosknight 8 hours ago||
It's a bit silly to call it a monopoly.

No one is forced to choose an iPhone over the many many Android alternatives.

bigyabai 6 hours ago||
But when you're forced to choose the App Store over the many many alternative .ipa distributors, it's perfectly logical and fair?

Android is a hardware alternative - Apple needs upward pressure to make their services competitive. If you use a Mac this is already obvious, you can't buy industry-standard software on the App Store. They all avoid it like the plague when given the opportunity, and Apple deliberately closes this escape hatch on iOS. Apple has known the App Store isn't good enough for over a decade.

It is an arbitrary and deliberate protectionist monopoly of app distribution. How many trophies does Tim Apple need to give Trump before people get the hint?

stalfosknight 6 hours ago||
The App Store is an integrated component of the iPhone experience.

It's perfectly fine to have different preferences but doesn't mean you get to meddle in the UI/UX of something you didn't create. If you really want to sideload, that's what Android is for.

error503 4 hours ago|||
And when Android follows Apple's lead, then what?

The consumer harm is obvious. Whether you call it a "monopoly" or something else, it is a problem that needs to be addressed.

bigyabai 4 hours ago|||
> The App Store is an integrated component of the iPhone experience.

It's an App Store. The .IPA is an integrated component of the iPhone experience, the App Store is an optional storefront. Again, look at the Mac.

You're repeating the same limp defenses that Apple has already watched get torn down by the EU and Japanese courts. We've solidly moved onto the "beg Trump for help" phase, which is miles worse than the humiliation of allowing sideloading.

Do you still want to know why they're putting ads into the only integrated storefront on iOS? It's real simple from where I'm standing.

cute_boi 9 hours ago||
Wow! They force you to use their app store, and now they have the gall to trick users into installing ads—and there will be multiple ads.
hopelite 8 hours ago||
This feels like a conversation about irrelevant matters the App Store ad design at the advent of AI integration? I see the future being AI suggesting or responding with an app or extension to add specific abilities or features based on stated objectives, i.e., just a package manager behind the scenes. I don’t see myself going to some App Store. I haven’t even “browsed” one in years because they all seem extremely static, having reached a peak saturation and static state.

Frankly, Apple could have probably just totally replaced the App Store a long time ago if they were not slaves to financial reports by simply integrating app search into spotlight more closely or prominently… pull down, search “ai app” (or whatever) and you’re provided with a list of app results that includes an install button.

App updating could and should have been integrated into the settings app.

These kinds of things will only increasingly start biting the Apple as Google has been forced to face the abyss of the death of the common search they’ve dominated for decades now. I don’t think Apple has faced that existential Grim-reaper yet… what do you do when the app ecosystem, OS UI/UX advantages, and even hardware quality has vanished through the cascading integration of AI? I don’t know that Apple has faced that yet or at least has been left blindsided, considering what I’ve been seeing from them.

amelius 5 hours ago|
The masters of UI design are showing us how to build an app store. /s