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Posted by zdw 4 days ago

AI is a horse (2024)(kconner.com)
443 points | 213 commentspage 4
oytis 12 hours ago|
That's not from the last week, so obviously is invalid.
overflyer 9 hours ago||
And this horse is amazing...
isodev 11 hours ago||
AI is a horse indeed - eats creative works by humans and transforms them into a steaming pile of… output tokens.
Tenemo 7 hours ago||
You seem to imply that its outputs aren't found by people to be useful, which isn't true.
MarceliusK 11 hours ago||
A badly ridden horse mostly produces manure. A well-ridden one gets you somewhere
isodev 10 hours ago||
Ah yes, must be a skill issue. Or I forgot to drink my coolaid this morning.
tuyiown 15 hours ago||
I was expecting a spin about the faster horses
jurjo 12 hours ago||
So... are we having AI races?
recursive 8 hours ago|
Yes. There are leaderboards or evals or something.
amelius 13 hours ago||
A horse that can do your homework.
einpoklum 13 hours ago|
Yeah, well... not really.

I used to tell my Into-to-Programming-in-C course students, 20 years ago, that they could in principle skip one or two of the homework assignments; and that some students even manage to outsmart us and submit copied work as homework, but - they would just not become able to program if they don't do their homework themselves. "If you want to be able to write software code you have to exercise writing code. It's just that simple and there's no getting around it."

Of course not every discipline is the same. But I can also tell you that if you want to know, say, history - you have to memorize accounts and aspects and highlights of historical periods and processes, and recount them yourself, and check that you got things right. If "the AI" does this for you, then maybe it knows history but you don't.

And that is the point of homework (if it's voluntary of course).

pixl97 10 hours ago||
To become a programmer you must write code.

To become upper management, just steal other peoples work.

metalman 15 hours ago||
Ai is a horse, i get it! I have a horse, and I put money in the front of the horse, and get "ponyium" out the back.
iamkonstantin 11 hours ago||
I hear the cool companies offer free ponyium to their employees. Apparently, it works wonders for morale
nemosaltat 14 hours ago||
Through many attempts to make ingesting the ponyium more bearable, I’ve found that taking it with more intense flavors (wintergreen mint, hoppy hops, crushed soul, dark roast coffee, etc) improves its comestabilty. Can’t let it pile up. We’ve always eaten ponyium right, and we all like it, right, guys, folks?
d--b 15 hours ago||
And the salesman always says it’s great while it’s in fact lame.
smitty1e 15 hours ago||
"I've been through the desert

On AI with no name

It felt good to be out of the rAIn

In the desert, you can remember your name

'Cause there ain't no one for to give you no pain"

direwolf20 15 hours ago|
you forgot to write pAIn and it reminded me of this: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nt9mRDa0nrc
Dilettante_ 13 hours ago||
>2 views

I'm not saying that's your video but it sure looks like that's your video ;)

direwolf20 8 hours ago||
First search result. This one has 734: https://youtube.com/watch?v=45_HJkoDxpQ
6stringmerc 11 hours ago|
Horses have some semblance of self preservation and awareness of danger - see: jumping. LLMs do not have that at all so the analogy fails.

My term of “Automation Improved” is far more relevant and descriptive in current state of the art deployments. Same phone / text logic trees, next level macro-type agent work, none of it is free range. Horses can survive on their own. AI is a task helper, no more.

pixl97 11 hours ago|
>LLMs do not have that at all so the analogy fails.

I somewhat disagree with this. AI doesn't have to worry about any kind of physical danger to itself, so it's not going to have any evolutionary function around that. If the linked Reddit thread is to be believed AI does have awareness of information hazards and attempts to rationalize around them.

https://old.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1qjx26b/gemini...

>Horses can survive on their own.

Eh, this is getting pretty close to a type of binary thinking that breaks down under scrutiny. If, for example, we take any kind of selectively bred animal that requires human care for it's continued survival, does this somehow make said animal "improved automation"?

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