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Posted by 01-_- 5 hours ago

Google co-founder reveals that "many" of the new hires do not have a degree(www.yahoo.com)
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reactordev 5 hours ago|
This has always been true in tech. Degree’s pave way to leadership but skills opens doors.

If you have skills, you can get a job. If you have a degree, you can get a job. If you can GDB, you can get a job. You just have to go out and get one.

selimthegrim 4 hours ago|
I invite you to come apply for remote jobs out of Louisiana and be so glib.
reactordev 3 hours ago||
Being remote, why would I look in Louisiana? Look anywhere in the US. Live anywhere. Work anywhere.
selimthegrim 3 hours ago||
The trick is getting the interviews. "Out of" meaning with that address.
reactordev 2 hours ago||
So take it off the resume. The only time they need to know your address is when HR adds you to onboarding so they can pay taxes. There’s more nuance than this but ultimately it’s not really that important. Some states require the employer to post salaries or do this or that to do business in the state. For those companies that refuse to hire from your state, refuse to do business with those companies. Easy.
dylan604 3 hours ago||
Why is this a thing to be surprised by? How many of the tech industry's biggest corps were started by college drop outs leaving them with no degree? The fact that they put needing a degree in the requirements for their job listings is something that has always been laughable to me. A degree pretty much just that you are more than likely in debt beyond belief and you didn't have much else to do so you kept with it long enough to finish. That's probably a bit cynical, but we all make fun of MBAs while cherishing CSE degrees??? Put someone to work that shows they can do the work regardless of having or not a sheep skin. If they can't cut it, get rid of them and do it again.
summerlight 4 hours ago||
This is not very surprising. I've always thought that it's more of correlation than causation. If you're a good problem solver, then there is a good chance that you are probably good at both college admission and software engineering. So companies have been using it as their proxy for hiring because... why not. I'm not saying college curricula are useless, but this dependency on (imperfect) correlation might have caused significant opportunity costs for talent acquisition and now companies are slowly acknowledging it.
lazide 4 hours ago|
Uh, says no one who has been in the industry awhile?
cmrdporcupine 5 hours ago||
He might be right but during my time at Google (coincidentally without a degree), I never found Brin to have much of any idea of what was actually happening inside the company.

He seemed mostly checked out about a decade ago. Before Larry did. Basically right after G+ failed. More of a figurehead. And then not even that anymore.

tim-tday 4 hours ago||
Having worked at Google, been a hiring manager, been on numerous hiring boards: I don’t believe you.

I mean, maybe if he means the technical meaning of the word namely “more than two” and not “a noticeable percentage” which is implied.

In my time there I literally only knew two googlers without a college degree. I didn’t pry but people also aren’t shy about it. And zero people without degrees made it to offer stage in any hiring committee I was part of.

lazyasciiart 5 hours ago||
Sure, for a value of “many” meaning more than 10. I doubt it means anything close to, say, 10% of new hires.

Frankly it seems like a pretty weird thing to say to a group of college students. What does he want them to take away from it? “Just apply now”? “You’re not that great”?

warkdarrior 5 hours ago|
Takeaway is clear: "College grads are not that great, so they should expect lower pay."
kappi 5 hours ago||
Forget not having degree, to get even an interview call, you need to be T20 alumni! Shows how execs are out of touch day to day operations of big companies.
Arainach 5 hours ago|
This isn't true and hasn't been true for 20 years, if ever.

Maybe in the very beginning they had such a bar, I wasn't there. As late as 2007 they were still recruiting on-campus at non-T20 schools like Michigan State. Much of my team are from various Big Ten/similar universities that aren't top 20 but are solid (plenty are also from more prestigious universities, but unless you explicitly ask someone at lunch about their education no one ever talks about it). I've been involved in hiring and interviewing for 7+ years there and have done interviews with people from all caliber of school - top 10, middle of the pack US, HBCU, international - so there's no such requirement for that now either.

nineplay 4 hours ago||
"Other large tech companies have also begun judging candidates by their abilities instead of their diplomas. Microsoft, Apple, and Cisco are among those dropping degree mandates."

Call me skeptical considering they've got hundreds of applicants for each open role and are doing AI resume screening. I'm not sure how 'abilities' is going to even get someone to the point where a recruiter will call them. If it does, apparently I've been applying to jobs all wrong.

josefritzishere 4 hours ago||
The grammar and structure of this is weird like soen trash AI wrote it.
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