Posted by wmeredith 1 day ago
HN reveals itself again as the manicured lawn of the fascist tranche of our industry
That said, the bravest we have are asking that they please not be murdered. And then peacefully kneeling down to be executed, even when they are armed.
Obviously this only emboldens the murderers. The options moving forward look bleak.
The best thing to do is to be out there recording everything. You are right that they are emboldened, so you're putting yourself in danger by filming. When people continue to do that despite the danger, and despite the internal or external pressure to escalate, it shows more people what's really happening.
I've witnessed people change their position on ICE's actions based on the video evidence of the last killing. Videos 1 and 2 weren't convincing to them, but the 3rd angle was. That's important, because they now know that the administration is lying in the face of directly contradicting evidence.
I don't understand how that will be meaningfully different from what is happening already?
Do yourself a favor and sit this one out while the rest of us fix it.
FWIW I do think things might be different later but there’s still a lot of room for escalation left
We have a fascist President, yes. We will see if this means we have a fascist government within the next decade.
Collective action problems are just the worst.
https://xcancel.com/Kaelan47/status/2014410500096856358
Even crazier is the reply further down on that post from the deputy press secretary, Abigail Jackson, making fun of people who debunked that post like Snopes:
https://xcancel.com/abigailmarone/status/2014411002561863790
It’s horrifying but shows that they’re completely shameless about lying. And shameless about being aggressive and obscene. You see this from the other people too like press secretary Karoline Leavitt, who regularly abuses journalists asking reasonable questions.
And more horrifying are all the accounts replying in support of this. That’s evidence of the hardcore MAGA base that’ll support Trump no matter what he does, I guess.
I'd just like to say that judging public perception based on online comments, in 2026, is probably not a good indicator at all. Sort of ironic having to point this out in a thread about AI faked images, but...
Plenty of people pay for the ‘i think my opinion matters more’ boost button, malicious propagandist or regular person alike
Sure, but only because people think that that's what the public really thinks.
It's a long, inexorable march, but violence only perpetuates more violence and reduces sympathy for the protest movement.
It mirrors what is working in Minneapolis. It shows public outrage at what is happening. The absence of violence in the crowd makes it even clearer that ICE are the ones provoking incidents. It helps city and state officials make their case that their people need protection from ICE, not the other way around.
The sad fact is, even most of the people who're sympathetic to democracy and human rights will do just about zero to protect or fight for them.
I don't really know what else to do though, so I keep trying!
From there, it opens doors to working with towns and eventually the state.
States have the power to override Federal laws in greater numbers.
This is by design. If you dont understand how your country works, the systems that run it, then you will fail.
Awareness helps, but it rarely changes things. Participating in the democratic process creates the potential for change before it's too late.
But I'm not sure if you've looked at the news lately... we're pretty far into "too late".
Non-violent protest movements have a great record of creating real, and sustained change. Whether that's in India, or the civil rights and gay rights and suffrage and abolition movements here, peaceful protest is a powerful way to send a message to the people in your governments what you and the rest of the people there support and expect of them.
It's a great way to meet folk, to get good energy, to get a message out, to get a little exercise and fresh air, and to support your causes in an effective and, relatively light time commitment manner.