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Posted by mickle00 1 day ago

Yes, It's Fascism(www.theatlantic.com)
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ValveFan6969 1 day ago|
Shooting people for speaking is also fascism but they won't say that.
zahlman 13 hours ago||
Who was shot for speaking?
xnx 1 day ago||
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learingsci 1 day ago||
Trump needs we better critics. Heck, we all need better Trump critics. This unfortunately is more of the same; doing more harm than good.
RealityVoid 1 day ago||
I think your point is true, better critique helps dismantling post-truth populism. I also think the article is correct in its assessment and is a good critique for a certain segment of the population. It might be true that it won't persuade any trumpers though. Not sure you can persuade them with articles.
learingsci 10 hours ago||
The author wrote a book about how America needs to reembrace Christianity. A review of that book said it was unclear who the book was for, given that the author is a homosexual atheist Jew. I would say that applies to this article too. As you note, it won’t convince Trump voters of anything. Its only utility is for those who already think Trump is a fascist, a term that the author himself says is basically meaningless. It merely makes those who agree with its conclusion feel good and click links. Signal detection theory tells us more noise makes signals harder to detect. So the article is counterproductive. Ok, meets the authors definition of fascist; so what?
twistah 1 day ago||
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jLaForest 1 day ago|
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dang 1 day ago||
HN has had numerous major frontpage threads that are critical of this administration. Not enough to satisfy those who want more, but that is a separate issue.
smw 1 day ago|||
Hey, I think you're a superhero for making this place such wonderful forum for deep and interesting conversation, but isn't there some point where you might consider putting your finger on the scale to help stop the slide into authoritarianism? This seems like the moment, maybe?
Redoubts 1 day ago|||
> isn't there some point where you might consider putting your finger on the scale to help stop the slide into authoritarianism? This seems like the moment, maybe?

posting isn't praxis. what do you think more articles on this site will achieve?

jLaForest 1 day ago|||
It's a matter of taking his finger off the scale... Stop taking down threads with productive discussion just because they conflict with your worldview (and financial interests)
dang 1 day ago||
What you call "taking finger off scale" would turn HN into a politics / current affairs site. I know that some of you want that, and a few even wonder how we can possibly be so evil as not to do it, but it is simply not the kind of site that HN is. That is the case regardless of what terminology you use - fingers on scales, curation, moderation, - which are different ways of describing the same thing.

I'm not sure why you need to invoke cynical motives for us running HN this way, since the reasons we give for this (which are quite real) explain things better. (for example, if we only cared about suppressing this stuff, why would HN be having frontpage threads about it at all? that doesn't make much sense.) But that's just me.

I think it would help you guys to understand that most of the HN community, even most who agree with you politically, do not want us to throw in the towel and let HN become like the rest of the internet. Only a small portion of users want this, though they do post intense (and sometimes even aggressive) comments about it. Given that HN has always stuck to its mandate and that the community wants us to keep doing so, I don't see this as a close call.

LexiMax 1 day ago|||
Most of the social spaces that I frequent don't have the amount of political topics posted as HN.

Would you like to know the difference between those spaces and here? It's that in those spaces, regardless of if the members are left right or center, the community is on the same page in terms of authoritarians, and authoritarian apologia will get you tossed.

Therefore, there isn't the same sort of desire - or need - to point out the obvious and show the uncomfortable realities to the crowd.

Refusing to take a stand on this sort of thing and leaving it for the community to sort out will only make things worse. It's functionally no different than the kind of combative environment you get on major social media networks; the only difference is the amount of tone policing caused by the user-facing moderation tools.

jLaForest 15 hours ago|||
Currently there is not a single remotely political post on the front page, as the moderators intended. But yes I should believe you and not my lying eyes

Not only could you not allow the article posted, but even my comment on your actions was flagged. Stop censuring criticism because it makes you uncomfortable

dang 12 hours ago||
> Currently there is not a single remotely political post on the front page, as the moderators intended. But yes I should believe you and not my lying eyes

This was on the frontpage for 18 hours yesterday: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46756117 - Jan 2026 (861 comments). 18 hours is about as much coverage as any frontpage story gets. It was there when I posted my GP comment and for a good 7 or 8 hours after that.

What you call "believing your eyes" depends on what you notice, which depends on how you feel (and particularly on what you dislike [1]). If you felt differently, you would notice different things and make different generalizations. (I don't mean you personally, of course—we're all this way.)

Your comment seems to assume that there must be one or more political stories on HN's front page at all times. There's no such rule. I get that you want more—everyone wants more of their preferred topics on HN's front page, including me. You're simply at odds with the kind of site this is and what we optimize it for [2], as well as with the bulk of the community, which wants something different than what you want. Treating that as moral failings of evil admins, accusing us of lying and so on, is not an interpretation I think most people here would agree with.

> even my comment on your actions was flagged. Stop censuring criticism because it makes you uncomfortable

Most of your comments aren't flagged. If you're talking about https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46758424, I imagine users flagged that one for being both false and aggressive.

Anyone who reads HN regularly knows that there's tons of criticism here of the site, the admins, the community - in fact, every aspect of HN is constantly being criticized and complained about. It's a bit odd to call that "killing all discussion that is critical."

[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que..., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativity_bias

[2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

jLaForest 12 hours ago||
The third to comment on that post is:

Glad to see this post didn't get flagged like the one that was posted yesterday on a similar topic about ICE data mining and user tracking.

Obviously I'm not the only one noticing the one sided censorship. If you want to ban political discussion, just be honest about it.

You called my parent comment false, yet this post is still flagged... Add gaslighting to the list. I better hush up before my whole account gets banned...

dang 12 hours ago||
Political discussion isn't banned on HN. If you want to understand the approach we take, https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... has pointers to many explanations, including recent ones.

I'm not saying we always make the right calls on individual stories—we don't—but we try our best to apply those principles, as well as to explain them clearly.

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Edit: you edited your comment after I replied - if you do that, can you please note where you're editing it? Otherwise it's unfair to readers, who can't track in what order the conversation developed.

I'm not sure I understand the last bit, but your comment which I called false is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46758424, and that was because everything it says is false. I didn't flag that post, didn't kill discussion, don't "protect the interests of this administration", and don't kill all discussion that is critical.

We don't ban accounts for criticizing us. We ban them for breaking the site guidelines.

jLaForest 9 hours ago||
Nobody is reading this back and forth between us because you chose to keep this post flagged...
dang 9 hours ago||
I'm replying to you, and that seems to be working!

If other users need this information, there are thousands of other posts where they can get it, and we post more every day. It's more or less always the same information because the underlying principles don't change, or at least haven't in a long while.

jLaForest 1 day ago||||
Yes I know because I've read through several right before they are predictably taken down. But yes I will take your word and stop believing my eyes and ears...
Willson50 1 day ago|||
Be nice to Dang, he is just following orders.
mickle00 1 day ago||
fwiw it's been flagged and unflagged four times since I posted. I don't know the algorithm -- but it's been great to see whomever is unflagging understanding the importance and significance of this issue and relevance to hackers everywhere.
jLaForest 1 day ago||
And here it remains flagged... I wonder why?