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Posted by siev 1 day ago

Iran's internet blackout may become permanent, with access for elites only(restofworld.org)
388 points | 324 commentspage 3
kumarvvr 21 hours ago|
Good luck trying to take something back from the populace once already given for decades, even if it is in a limited form.

It's a desperate attempt, that really shows how cornered the administration is.

Any power that fears information, has to have a highly fine grained, high level control of information to maintain power. This is absolutely difficult, in a country as culturally diverse and with a long history as Iran.

morajabi 19 hours ago||
This has been the administration's response to such events for multiple times over the last 6 years (3 times to be exact, plus during the time of war with Israel) and the claim has always been Iran wants to shutdown internet forever. But in all those cases the access was re-enabled after a few or several weeks.

Right now the internet access is widening and some areas are already back to normal internet — but it hasn't been stable over the past week. https://radar.cloudflare.com/traffic/ir

adrianwaj 21 hours ago|||
It not just information, but capital (crypto) - think prediction markets and their influence:

https://polymarket.com/event/khamenei-out-as-supreme-leader-...

"In addition to the central bank, it seems as though regular Iranians are seeking the perceived safety of cryptocurrencies as unrest disrupts the country and the economy collapses."

https://www.coindesk.com/business/2026/01/21/iran-s-central-...

ReptileMan 17 hours ago||
>Good luck trying to take something back from the populace once already given for decades, even if it is in a limited form.

Like the right to not wear scarf? Seems they had the good luck with that one.

alsetmusic 14 hours ago||
I think that'd only further cause people to push back. I think this could only backfire.

Imagine if all the conveniences of the internet were taken from you. Not that you'd never had them, but that you'd come to rely on them and then they were gone. Feels like some palpable oppression to me. And it has nothing to do with your political views. Everyone will feel the squeeze and nobody is gonna be dismissive about it.

random123346 23 hours ago||
There is active discussion on net4people about using DNSTT, but as more of these tunnels go up, I'm sure it will be blocked.

Given the denied environment the Iranian people see themselves in. I believe its worth mentioning asynchronous networks[1].

For example, they could use NNCP[2] in sneakernet style op[3].

Couriers could even layer steganography techniques on top on the NNCP data going in and out on USB drives. This can all be done now, and doesn't require new circumvention research or tools.

NNCPNET[4] is now active which provides email over NNCP and therefore can be done completely without internet. Once a courier gets to a location that isn't as denied, they can route it over the internet via a NNCP relay. Both for getting information out, and getting data back in.

For those wanting to get information to new agencies, you should consider SecureDrop. Here[5] is a list of securedrop locations.

Like all operations, please consider your OPSEC.

Good luck

[1] www.complete.org/asynchronous-communications/

[2] www.complete.org/NNCP/

[3] www.complete.org/dead-usb-drives-are-fine-building-a-reliable-sneakernet/

[4] www.complete.org/nncpnet-email-network/

[5] https://docs.securedrop.org/en/stable/source/source.html

iamnothere 16 hours ago|
Thanks for mentioning NNCP, it doesn’t get enough attention.

I am hoping more tools will be built on top of it, with good tolerance for asynchronous/offline networks, particularly for communication and social. We may need it soon elsewhere.

Mail over NNCP works well as you mentioned because mail is already asynchronous. Maybe Delta Chat over NNCP is worth a try.

veqq 1 day ago||
But they unblocked it on Wed/Thur, I've been talking to friends normally since then.
namirez 23 hours ago|
Astroturfing much? I haven’t been able to talk to my family for three weeks. Friends who manage to connect are hopping from one workaround to another because IPs are routinely blocked.
veqq 19 hours ago||
Do not immediately jump to such disgusting accusations:

> Astroturfing much?

I have been involved in antiregime activities for years. You can easily find many posts of mine evangelizing the cause in the oddest places e.g.: https://www.themotte.org/post/2196/culture-war-roundup-for-t...

> I just want the regime to change

I run one of the biggest defense forums where I post about it a lot: https://www.reddit.com/r/CredibleDefense/comments/1q09y6q/ac...

namirez 12 hours ago||
Good for you! Then you must know that the internet connection in Iran is not back to normal [1].

[1] https://x.com/netblocks/status/2015695423000756250?s=20

mdavid626 21 hours ago||
North Korea 2.0
cranberryturkey 18 hours ago||
Post Iranian protests to http://icemap.app anonymously.
ReptileMan 17 hours ago||
Can we cut couple of undersea cables and make it properly permanent for elites too?
hahahahhaah 1 day ago||
Can ROTW sanction Iran by giving it zero internet access even to "elites" by refusing to peer.
vlovich123 1 day ago||
You’re proposing a world wide agreement even by their allies? Like they can just tunnel their traffic through Russia or China.

You could try to bifurcate into allied and non allied, but even that would be flawed, especially in countries like the USA where it becomes a first amendment right to try to ban such connectivity. It’s very hard to kill the Internet in terms of connecting peers - that’s kind of the point of its design.

johncolanduoni 22 hours ago||
IPs owned by Iranian entities could be blocked straightforwardly by network operators at various levels. They could probably fudge the paperwork via Russian or Chinese entities and obfuscate the routes with cooperation from Russian/Chinese network operators, but that would take time.
Maxious 22 hours ago|||
they're fudging the paperwork with oil tankers that everybody can see https://www.reuters.com/graphics/IRAN-OIL/zjpqngedmvx/
tucnak 22 hours ago|||
They said "tunnel"
johncolanduoni 8 hours ago||
If they mean a real proxy, that’s even more involved - you can’t just do that with BGP configurations and will need someone running what is basically a country-wide VPN in Russia or China (which will probably be very identifiable).
vlovich123 1 hour ago||
I’m really not sure what you’re going on about. Russia and China won’t cut off Iran and will be more than happy to have them pay to connect to VPN providers in country (eg the routes advertised will only let them connect to VPN providers). Or you can use botnets to proxy your traffic for you.
direwolf20 16 hours ago||
That will make it so much easier for the regime to suppress all communication! They'll have more resources to focus on other goals, like killing all dissenters.

Is the idea to unblock their internet if they let everyone use the internet and not just the elite? It won't work. Their elites will find workarounds and they'll leave the internet completely blocked apart from that.

FilosofumRex 1 day ago|
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