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Posted by bwb 21 hours ago

France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.(twitter.com)
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2OEH8eoCRo0 21 hours ago|
For a fraction of what these products cost France could fund open source alternatives.

Edit: I'm not saying they don't.

0xADD1E 21 hours ago||
You mean something like LiveKit, with a basic implementation of user management etc such as https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet ?
_ache_ 21 hours ago|||
They do. « we are committed to contributing back to the LiveKit community whenever feasible ».
saubeidl 21 hours ago|||
The tool they're building is open source: https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet
well_ackshually 21 hours ago||
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ChrisArchitect 21 hours ago||
Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46766004
i_love_retros 20 hours ago||
Seriously, why are people still using twitter? It's owned by a Nazi supporter, is full of white nationalist racist posters, and seems a strange place to announce you are moving off of American tech.
i_love_retros 20 hours ago||
Not to mention JD Vance uses it so it's like sharing a room with a massive dog turd
eb0la 20 hours ago|||
Politicians use it a lot. Because media and journalist started using it.
Nextgrid 20 hours ago|||
Because for better or worse it still has significance and popularity. Nothing else really comes close.
tick_tock_tick 15 hours ago|||
Because they EU still can't make software and most people in America don't care.
qznc 15 hours ago||
We’re talking about Twitter. Mastodon exists. It is not about making software. Maybe about selling it or marketing.
weirdmantis69 20 hours ago||
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xracy 17 hours ago||
It's wild to me that the first Trump Administration didn't teach this lesson. The "Just Trust me Bro" Foreign policy that has existed clearly only works if the person in power is trustworthy, and you have to carefully investigate any policy that is enforced by "trust". One of the most disappointing failures of the Biden Administration was that they didn't realize this.

The greatest failure of every other country was to get lulled into a false sense of security when the US Gov't shifted back to an at-all trustworthy foreign policy.

aerhardt 19 hours ago||
I've been recently researching if I could replace American cloud providers with something like OVH or Hetzner (the latter I occasionally use for VPS) and there is no fucking chance. It's great that 37signals and DHH can do it, and I have no trouble believing they have saved money, but for situations in which I operate, both startup and enterprise environments but where devs are scarce and teams small, it's simply not realistic.
earthnail 19 hours ago|
I moved my stuff to Hetzner. Obv I have no idea about your situation, but I found it fairly trivial for my stuff.

But I can't figure out how to replace GSuite.

aerhardt 18 hours ago||
Well for one thing, call me a sell-out or accuse me of lacking craftsmanship, but I like my databases managed. Then also storage buckets, IAM, general cloud security and other niceties.

And I don't think it's for a lack of skills, I know my way around a Linux box - it's just that I save so much time. I'll occasionally build small projects in a VPS (sometimes cramming the db in there too!) but I don't feel I can do it for other more serious work projects.

Hetzner has basic load-balancing and security around the VPS and that's it, OVH has a bit more but it all looks quite green.

LunaSea 1 hour ago|||
> Well for one thing, call me a sell-out or accuse me of lacking craftsmanship, but I like my databases managed.

I had the same worries and then we moved to OVH and Hetzner and had no issues.

AWS RDS is about 10x more expensive than bare metal with maybe 1/4th the disk performance.

Regarding operations I simply setup a primary and read replica together with a PGBackRest continuous archiving and backup solution to a S3 compatible storage service.

Has worked like a charm in the last two years and recreating the database is a breeze.

Our database is ~8 TB large.

everfrustrated 11 hours ago||||
You're not wrong. Europe has no clouds only hosting & vps providers. Nothing has changed in 20 years. Really sad actually.
earthnail 18 hours ago|||
Oh, I wasn't trying to say you're wrong. Just wanted to share that for me, the bottleneck has been elsewhere, and that I personally found GSuite harder than the compute cloud.
sylware 13 hours ago||
... probably using whatng cartel web engines, and that would be ridiculous for sure.
mytailorisrich 19 hours ago||
This is the French government aiming to have all the government agencies use videoconferencing software that was developed internally by themselves.

So a huge waste of taxpayers money...

This is a pure ongoing cost to develop and maintain (more so than using an market product) while not getting any traction externally. The productive way to do this is to encourage private companies to develop these products and to support them with government contracts. There are not going to conpete with Silicon Valley if they don't create actual private competitors. Absolutely ridiculous approach but unfortunately typical of the industrial scale waste of the French government...

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