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Posted by todsacerdoti 11 hours ago

Fedora Asahi Remix is now working on Apple M3(bsky.app)
449 points | 170 commentspage 3
jacquesm 9 hours ago|
Do the M-series have better wifi support than the last Intel range?
drcongo 10 hours ago||
This is great news. If Apple ever get around to releasing actually pro M5 MBPs I'm buying one and turning this M1 MBP into a linux laptop.
electronsoup 11 hours ago||
oh awesome! I had assumed they were just targeting M1/M2 for the time being
saubeidl 9 hours ago||
If anyone else wants the closest thing to a MBP running Linux without waiting for Asahi to fully work, I can highly recommend the HP ZBook G1A.

* It has an all-aluminium chassis that feels a lot like a MBP.

* Hardware all works - fingerprint reader, webcam, suspend etc etc. Takes a bit of work, but all works in the end. Helps that HP ships them with Ubuntu as official option.

* Strix Halo chipset, which is basically AMD's attempt at an Apple Silicon type design. Single big chip, with unified LPDDR5X-8000 RAM (up to 128GB!) shared between CPU and GPU (which is surprisingly strong as well, 40 CU!). This thing is a beast for local LLMs!

Only downside really is the battery life. I haven't played around with it too much, I think there's a bit more room with custom tuned profiles, but rn I get like maybe 6 hours on a good day?

zamadatix 8 hours ago|
I also have an Apple M4 MacBook Pro from Work and an HP ZBook G1a for my personal. I used to have an Asahi MacBook but switched over with the lack of M3/M4 support. Some extra compare/contrast:

- The build quality of each are excellent. The touchpad on the G1a is probably the closest to a MacBook touchpad I've seen and it even manages to boast an OLED screen. On the other hand, the G1a is only available as a 14" option.

- Strix Halo will still leave you wishing it were Apple Silicon in pretty much every case except "I need to run a x86 native app/VM". It's certainly the best alternative, but you definitely trade away to go to it. You can load large LLMs (I have the 128 GB version for non-AI reasons) but they only run ~3x faster than a laptop without a GPU would because 256 GB/s still ends up being a big bandwidth limit. If you do actually do this regularly, then prepare to hear the fans and look for your power adapter as it does get quite hot doing so.

- Speaking of power adapter... you need either a 100 W or 140 W charger + USB C to be able to charge the G1a while you use it. If you want to use a lower wattage adapter you need to power off, or it seems to draw 0 W out of spite.

- It's massively refreshing to have a normal UEFI bootup process, and as long as you have a current kernel the hardware support is indeed pretty great on the G1a. Between the two, the G1a has better supported than the M1 w/ Asahi - as one would expect for a corporation officially supporting Linux vs a fan project.

If I were to do it all again, I'd say I might have either just gotten an M2 Pro for Asahi or an M4 w/ macOS and a Linux VM as needed. Part of going for an x86 laptop was to be able to dual boot into games with strict DRM, but after trying multiple versions of AMD graphics driver for the 8060s it was more a frustration in random stutters and I ended up not gaming on it as much as I have on other laptops anyways. Bazzite does work great though, just not with all of the different DRMs or games.

rowanG077 9 hours ago||
While it's awesome that it runs there doesn't seem to be GPU support yet as the screenshot reports the llvmpipe software renderer. From what I understand there are significant difference between the M2 and M3 GPUs so this unlikely to be implemented soon. Unless it turns out this original analysis turns out to be wrong.

Personally I don't consider it "working" as a laptop on an Apple M3 unless you actually have GPU support. Software rending just sucks, even with a SoC as powerful as the Apple M3.

dangus 10 hours ago||
Really cool, though if I was looking for a Linux laptop today, I’d be watching the Intel Panther Lake products rolling out.

The top SKU has a similar performance and efficiency profile to the base M5 processor along with faster graphics performance.

Review embargos for the top SKU just dropped today.

hard_times 9 hours ago|
You can't really be that naive, can you
bigyabai 8 hours ago||
Au contraire - which Asahi-supported machines hold a candle to AMD and Intel's Linux support?

I can't recommend Macs to other Linux users in good faith unless they're already stuck with the hardware and loathe macOS. If you need an ARM laptop that supports Linux, you should probably wait for Nvidia to release theirs.

CamJN 8 hours ago|||
it's this part: "The top SKU has a similar performance and efficiency profile to the base M5 processor along with faster graphics performance." that is naive, this has been the standard lie told by intel as long as Apple silicon has existed, "Ignore everything we've ever done or promised before, our NEXT gen will be as fast and power efficient as apple! We promise this time!". It has never been true, and honestly I don't think it CAN be true when they have to give over a full third of their transistor budget just to decoding the abomination that is x86_64.
dangus 5 hours ago|||
Proper testing and benchmarks don’t lie. I’m not sure why you think this is an impossible feat.

https://youtu.be/Xjkzb-j6nKI

12:00 mark, you can see panther lake performs better in Cyberpunk 2077 than the M5 with less power draw.

6:25, Panther Lake is barely behind the M5 chip at Cinebench. Just a slightly lower score at the same wattage.

And don’t forget, the M5 is years away from supporting Linux fully. We are just talking about the M3 getting decent support.

If you’re the kind of person that wants a thin and light laptop for productivity and also wants to fire up some light games here and there, it’s hard to argue that an M5 MacBook Air is the right system for you. Even with recent strides in game compatibility, macOS is a terrible gaming platform that really can’t hold a candle to Windows or Linux x86, and Panther Lake graphics smokes the M5.

Obviously a Mac with macOS is a better choice for things like video editing.

bigyabai 6 hours ago|||
It's believable. AMD's x86 APUs were basically neck-and-neck with the M1 in performance, and when you normalize for production processes AMD was actually more efficient under load: https://www.notebookcheck.net/M1-vs-R7-4800U_12937_11681.247...

x86 is the minority of the issue compared to securing cutting-edge nodes and optimizing for big.LITTLE. And once you factor in all of the dark ops on Apple Silicon (NPU, anyone?), they've basically butt up against the same wall of wasting transistors on specialized hardware that is obsolete within 3 years of release. Minus the ability to cleanly integrate it with compiler tech for efficiency gains, a-la SSE/AVX.

rowanG077 6 hours ago|||
TBH my asahi M2 macbook experience has been the best linux experience I have ever had. It's night and day compared to the XPS 13 I had before which was supposedly a well supported laptop for linux, you could even buy it with ubuntu.

The only real drawback is no thunderbolt, and till recently no DP, and no x86 support. But I don't use any x86 only apps enough for it to matter. No thunderbolt sucks though.

2OEH8eoCRo0 11 hours ago|
Displayport alt mode? Thunderbolt?
fainpul 11 hours ago||
At least for M1 they got it working. Seems to be in testing phase now. Promised to come soon.

https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-asahi-linux-porting-linux-to-app...

michaelRostom 11 hours ago|||
From that video "Our goal is to make this [dp-altmode] generally available to all people sometime early in the next year [2026]"
gignico 10 hours ago||||
Is that display port over USB-C? That’s the main showstopper for me to use Asahi on my M1 Pro MBP.
ZiiS 10 hours ago||
Yes, the test branch works fine for me, should be officially supported soon.
gignico 8 hours ago||
That's cool!
someNameIG 7 hours ago|||
That's great. The only reason I haven't got it on my M1 Air yet.
hamandcheese 11 hours ago|||
I wish it were possible to directly fund DP-alt mode support. It is the only thing remaining preventing me from adopting Asahi.
ZiiS 10 hours ago||
For me https://github.com/AsahiLinux/linux/tree/fairydust installed and worked without any tweeks. Don't think you can direct funding, but https://opencollective.com/asahilinux contributes to getting this fully officially supported.
hamandcheese 9 hours ago||
No idea what the fairydust kernel is.

For more context, I gooled around and found this Phoronix article: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Asahi-Linux-EOY-2025-CCC

> On the display side, Asahi Linux developers have been working on the DisplayPort connectivity. For that there are now experimental DisplayPort patches for Asahi Linux via their "fairydust" tree.

That's great news!

greenimpala 11 hours ago||
and ProMotion, then its a serious contender
volemo 10 hours ago||
Dunno, I don’t care about ProMotion (I’ve got it and I don’t see it), but sleep and battery life are very important to me.
porkloin 10 hours ago|||
Are you sure you've actually used the higher refresh rate? It might not be enabled by default. I'd be surprised if you can't tell the difference comparing 60hz to 120hz back to back.
volemo 9 hours ago|||
Well, I have an M1 Pro MBP so I'm pretty sure.

edit: ok, I've tried toggling ProMotion on and off, and I can see it. However, I still think the improvement is marginal.

robin_reala 9 hours ago|||
I use an M1 Macbook Pro for work and an M2 Macbook Air for home, and I basically don’t see any major difference.