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Posted by ed 17 hours ago

OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again(openclaw.ai)
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atonse 7 hours ago||
I built something like this over the last 2 months (my company's name is Kaizen, so the bot's named "Kai"), and it helps me run my business. Right now, since I'm security obsessed, everything is private (for example, it's only exposed over tailscale, and requires google auth).

But I've integrated with our various systems (quickbooks for financial reporting and invoice tracking, google drive for contracts, insurance compliance, etc), and built a time tracking tool.

I'm having the time of my life building this thing right now. Everything is read only from external sources at the moment, but over time, I will slow start generating documents/invoices with it.

100% vibe coded, typescript, nextjs, postgres.

I can ask stuff in slack like "which invoices are overdue" etc and get an answer.

fogzen 3 hours ago|
Can you describe the architecture a bit? You setup a server that runs the app, the app's interface is Slack, and that calls out to ChatGPT or something using locally built tool calls?

Was thinking of setting up something like this and was kind of surprised nothing simple seems to exist already. Actually incredibly surprising this isn't something offered by OpenAI.

jameszol 8 hours ago||
I’m not a lawyer but trademark isn’t just searching TESS right? It’s overly broad but the question I ask myself when naming projects (all small / inconsequential in the general business sense but meaningful to me and my teams) is: will the general public confuse my name with a similar company name in a direct or tangentially related industry or niche? If yes, try a different name… or weigh the risks of having a legal expense later and go for it if worth the risk.

In this instance, I wonder if the general public know OpenAI and might think anything ai related with “Open” in the name is part of the same company? And is OpenAI protecting its name?

There’s a lot more to trademark law, too. There’s first use in commerce, words that can’t be marked for many reasons… and more that I’ll never really understand.

Regardless the name, I am looking forward to testing this on cloudflare! I’m a fan of the project!

jasona123 7 hours ago||
Apparently SmartScreen thinks the site is "dangerous" - not entirely sure why (maybe the newly seen domain) but that was funny to see on launch.
woeirua 4 hours ago||
This is just babyAGI again. People will realize in another few months that it doesn't really work well and that it costs a LOT of tokens.
rcarmo 15 hours ago||
This is indeed feeling very much like Accelerando’s particular brand of unchecked chaos. Loving every minute of it, first thing in our timeline that makes sense where it regards AI for the masses :)
Kostchei 11 hours ago|
yeh- what is interesting is that it is way more viral and ... complicit than any of the doomer threads. If it does build a self-sustaining hivemind across whatsapp and xitter.. it will be entirely self inflicted by people enjoying the "Jackass" level/ lack of security
notpushkin 4 hours ago||
I love the idea, so I wanted to give it a try. But on a fairly beefy server just running the CLI takes 13 seconds every time:

  $ time openclaw
  real    0m13.529s
Naturally I got curious and ran it with a NODE_DEBUG=*, and it turns out it imports a metric shit ton of Node modules it doesn’t need. Way too many stuff:

  $ du -d1 -h .npm-global/lib/node_modules/openclaw
  1.2G    .npm-global/lib/node_modules/openclaw

  $ find .npm-global/lib/node_modules/openclaw -type f | wc -l
  41935
Kudos to the author for releasing it, but you can do better than this.
recursive 2 hours ago|
Welcome to the vibe-coded future. You're gonna need a beefier server.
lxgr 11 hours ago||
> Yes, the mascot is still a lobster. Some things are sacred.

I've been wondering a lot whether the strong Accelerando parallels are intentional or not, and whether Charlie Stross hates or loves this:

> The lobsters are not the sleek, strongly superhuman intelligences of pre singularity mythology: They're a dim-witted collective of huddling crustaceans.

niliu123 6 hours ago||
At this rate, the project changes its name faster than my agent can summarize my inbox. Jokes aside, 'OpenClaw' sounds much more professional than 'Moltbot,' though the legal pressure from Anthropic was probably a blessing in disguise for the branding
jesse_dot_id 6 hours ago|
If you connect this anything you care about, you deserve the fallout of what will inevitably occur.
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