Top
Best
New

Posted by imalerba 7 days ago

Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?(ztechtalk.com)
383 points | 288 commentspage 3
Detrytus 7 days ago|
OK, I’m renaming my home WiFi to “Riverside_Strip_Club” :-)
palmotea 7 days ago||
> Microsoft confirmed that starting March 2026 (delayed from January), managers will be able to see your real-time location. And no, disconnecting from the office Wi-Fi won't save you.

Is there anything more than the Wifi SSID stuff below?

> If you connect to a Wi-Fi network that isn't your company's, Teams will simply display the name of that network. So if you decide to take a "working lunch" and connect to "Starbucks_Guest_WiFi", your boss sees it instantly. You can’t hide behind a generic "Remote" status anymore.

So how exactly does this work? It'd be pretty trivial setup my access point to provide a work SSID? How much access does Teams really have to get info to discern your location?

iso1631 7 days ago|
SSID, signal strength, BSSID, private IP, public IP, ipv6, all trivially available to a binary running on a machine.

It sounds far less than the diagnostics data I get from a small go binary.

If corporate policy is you can't connect to starbucks wifi, then enforce that at the MDM mangement layer - I assume things like SCCM can do it.

palmotea 7 days ago||
> SSID, signal strength, BSSID, private IP, public IP, ipv6, all trivially available to a binary running on a machine.

So it sounds like if you want to circumvent this: get a travel router that spoofs a work access point, and make sure any kind of identification requests that would reveal a public IP are either blocked or are going through your work VPN.

iso1631 7 days ago|||
Hell of a lot of opsec you need to ensure to lie to your employer.

How ware you going to spoof the certificate?

I don't get it personally, what's the purpose?

PunchyHamster 7 days ago|||
running it in a browser would be enough, no ?
palmotea 7 days ago||
If it's only just the teams app that's doing it, but I'm not sure if that's a safe assumption. There's a crap ton of Microsoft stuff installed on my laptop by default, and the IT admins install stuff all the time.
shevy-java 7 days ago||
Microsoft is really dropping everything lately. First the Win11 disaster; this one is even making it in the heads of german news sites such as here:

https://www.derstandard.at/story/3000000306516/windows-11-is...

"Windows ist kaputt" = "Windows is broken"

And now 365 tracking people. So the whole company seems to now just be about sniffing after people. In the past it alleged at the least to enable folks, say, Win95 perhaps up to WinXP. Now somehow the customer became the enemy. It's really strange to see.

reloadtak 7 days ago|
While you are not wrong on Microsoft, this Teams feature is not a problem - clowns who only read headlines are.
dleslie 7 days ago||
For what it's worth, unless it can be conclusively argued that surveillance is necessary for the task to be done this sort of continuous surveillance is illegal in Quebec, Alberta and British Columbia. It violates the privacy of employees.
xyst 7 days ago||
This is why unions in the workplace are a good thing. It would prevent management from enabling these god awful policies by using collective bargaining.

Yet the contrarians here will always say "iTs bEtTeR wItHoUt uNiOn cuz I nEgoTiaTe beTtEr"

antaviana 7 days ago||
When I started working at a time with no mobiles and no remote, calling or being called to the office for personal reasons was seen with disrespect from your coworkers. At work you were supposed to be working, and outside of work you were supposed not to be working. Pretty much as in the Severance series, but without the forgetting. With mobiles and connectivity, everything changed, I'm unsure if for better. Now you can work 24/7 or slack all day as if there were no tomorrow.
storus 7 days ago||
It seems like the worst practices from Trilogy/Crossover are leaking all over the industry. First the crunch at all times at FAANG, next tracking everyone in a few minute intervals, ending up with real-time video tracking at all times, all spawned by the desire of inept top management to run software development as a manual factory with predictable assembly lines and not an intellectual pursuit.
assaddayinh 7 days ago||
Society feels like a prison and the warden is watching.
salawat 7 days ago||
This is exactly the end state we'll end up in unless the technology sector starts saying no to implementing the tools of petty tyranny.

Hint: Bossware and most things the MBA's drool over.

Unfortunately, there's enough people out there that are fine with implementing said features if it means they get a paycheck; even if it ruins the world for everyone else.

assaddayinh 7 days ago||
All defectors
copilot_king 7 days ago||
[dead]
aquir 7 days ago||
So looks like feature is not working in the web client? One more reason to to use that instead. Also, I will uninstall Teams from my phone for sure.
re-lre-l 7 days ago|
In my opinion, if I want to install any work-related software on my personal devices, it means I’m so excited about the job that I honestly don’t care whether a manager sees where and what I’m doing - just as a manager usually doesn’t care either. I mean, there’s no reason at all to install anything on personal devices unless you actually care about the business.
n3dm 7 days ago|
What is your opinion about installing M$ Authenticator or any other mfa software?
mystifyingpoi 7 days ago||
It's a good question. At work, we were given an option: install non-intrusive authenticators on your personal phone (you are free to disable their notifications fully, and you get some extra money as reimbursement) or you are given a company phone (that you have to carry to work and back, have to charge and update etc). Most non-oncall people decided to pick option 1. Oncall people picked option 2.
More comments...