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Posted by smurda 5 days ago

Leaked chats expose the daily life of a scam compound's enslaved workforce(www.wired.com)
https://archive.is/mCEHR
284 points | 156 comments
LoveMortuus 5 days ago|
I wouldn't say I'm enslaved, would be unfair.

That being said, I live in a room rented to me by the company that hires me, I work for a customer service center, so it's not a construction situation. The reason the company rents us rooms is because we're not paid enough to afford normal rent.

All this means that if there's ever a ramp down, I'd be immediately jobless and homeless, which does not feel good at all...

nemomarx 4 days ago||
If you added on top being in a foreign country and needing your employer for your visa, I think you'd basically have the same situation as the article?

So that's a little precarious. I hope you have some savings built up.

LoveMortuus 4 days ago||
I'm putting all of my money into Quanloop (something like a P2P lending thingy) in hopes of growing the interest income to at least 1000€ per month.

Theoretically I should be able to reach that point in about 7 years, with the APY of ~15.6%, my goal is 80,000€.

LoveMortuus 1 day ago|||
How quickly things change... Today as I was riding to work, I got hit by a car and then to add icing on the cake, the company told me that they're not going to extend my contract...

I've got about three weeks to find an apartment or at least a room and a whole new job...

fskdsdfgvhjk 3 days ago|||
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RankingMember 4 days ago|||
A situation like you describe is ripe for abuse. H1Bs here deal with similar precariousness, though not on the level of what it sounds like you're dealing with. I hope your situation improves and you gain some security.
Kinrany 4 days ago|||
> The reason the company rents us rooms is because we're not paid enough to afford normal rent.

So they're paying you in the form of subsidized housing that is tied to work, instead of paying more. Yeah this should be illegal.

ted_bunny 4 days ago||
And if there's a fire? Jobless, homeless, and without papers. You should give your passport and all other important papers to your employer for safekeeping.
alwa 5 days ago||
https://archive.is/mCEHR
walterbell 5 days ago||
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/10/feds-seize-15-bi...

> [US] Federal prosecutors have seized $15 billion from the alleged kingpin of an operation that used imprisoned laborers to trick unsuspecting people into making investments in phony funds, often after spending months faking romantic relationships with the victims.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-01-29/china-executes-online...

> China has executed 11 people involved in criminal gangs in Myanmar, including online scam ringleaders. Their crimes included "intentional homicide, intentional injury, unlawful detention, fraud and casino establishment"

https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/3184205/why-china-was-so-k...

> Chen's case might prove more complicated since the US had seized a large amount of his cryptocurrency assets, but he was now in custody in China.. "If China doesn't cooperate, it will be extremely difficult for the US to investigate Chen."

giarc 5 days ago|
>seized $15 billion from the alleged kingpin

I know the answer but why amass $15 billion, more money than a person could spend in a lifetime, and still conduct this scam? You think a person would say "enough" and escape to a beach somewhere.

miohtama 5 days ago|||
Because it was old Bitcoin, which was confiscated long time ago and did 100x.
fragmede 5 days ago|||
I'm not sure what to call the bias but the people who have done that we don't hear about so we're only hearing about the ones that don't do that. Who knows how many ruffians and scofflaws are out there on beaches, going unknown!
giarc 4 days ago||
Good point - it's like the opposite of survivorship bias? We only hear about the ones that don't survive and get caught. The "survivors" we don't hear about all the criminals who are still at large I guess.
dudefeliciano 5 days ago||
A while back I thought I could make a bit of extra cash by playing along with these scams, apparently they give returns on the first/second round of investment and only run off with the money once the sum is large enough for them. Knowing that someone may get beaten or worse for losing money prevented me from going through with it
jonhohle 5 days ago||
If you would be able to withdraw (you wouldn’t be able to) that money has to come from somewhere, and that somewhere is from other people who were scammed.

No one is going to get beaten because of your interactions with scammers. They’re going to be beaten because they are enslaved.

e40 5 days ago|||
The phrase playing with fire comes to mind.
Havoc 5 days ago|||
The returns show are general on app/paper only not something you can actually withdraw
skeptic_ai 4 days ago|||
They sent me to my usdt wallet. So i actually got it. Of course after I earned 30 USD they make it impossible to withdraw unless I “invested” 100 usd. Very weird scam to pay out 30usd.

So means 1 in 3 people must invest 100 in order for them to breakeven, which tbh doesn’t make sense.

Also note that came from a random telegram account from dubai.

They asked if I wanted to make money etc. I obviously thought was a scam. I never expected to really cash out the 30 USD.

dudefeliciano 5 days ago|||
That makes sense to me and is what I would expect. I have seen accounts where people were in fact allowed to withdraw their small initial gains (although i can not confirm that was the case, maybe they were just trying to save face) that's what gave me the idea to scam the scammers in the first place.
nsvd2 5 days ago|||
They would likely allow you to withdraw some returns but not the principle.
eli_gottlieb 4 days ago|||
Trying to scam the scammers is one of the world's oldest ways of getting scammed.
wileydragonfly 4 days ago||
First taste is free. Don't engage with criminals even if they run crying to western media about being “enslaved.”
RandyOrion 4 days ago||
A related paper interviewing victims of the pig-butchering scams.

“Hello, is this Anna?": Unpacking the Lifecycle of Pig-Butchering Scams [1]

[1] https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.20821

simianwords 5 days ago||
Does Laos not have a functioning justice and enforcement system that the individuals trapped here could not just call them?
pjc50 5 days ago||
The catch-22 is that these people are nearly always immigrants, and the criminals have taken their documentation, so the best case scenario is they get rescued and then deported, possibly via a spell in immigration detention. The worst case scenario is the cops turn up, laugh, collect the day's bribe money and then the person who called the cops gets beaten.

(this is an important dynamic in sex trafficking as well)

JustSkyfall 5 days ago|||
The government is somewhat complicit - there are even reports that the police take escapees back to their captives for a bribe
simianwords 4 days ago||
this is far bigger a problem and requires interventions from China and India. what good is it to just punish the people who ran the scam but not the country that supported it?
astura 4 days ago|||
From TFA:

>The relative leniency of Muzahir’s compound, says Harvard’s Sims, likely stems from scam operations’ sense of total control in Laos’ Golden Triangle region—a zone of the country controlled largely by Chinese business interests that has become a host to crimes ranging from narcotics and organ sales to illegal wildlife trafficking. Even human trafficking victims who escape from a compound there, Sims points out, can be tracked down relatively easily thanks to Chinese organized crime’s influence over local law enforcement. “These guys don’t have to be held in a cell,” Sims says. “The whole place is a closed circuit.”

eviks 5 days ago||
What you see is exactly how those systems function
bandris 5 days ago||
Complementary movie on this topic: "No More Bets" from 2023

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_More_Bets

e40 5 days ago||
I have noticed a dramatic decline in human scam calls and a commensurate increase in ai calls.
CGMthrowaway 5 days ago||
Is there an archive link somewhere? All I see is a 21 minute podcast I can't listen to without a sub, and a single paragraph of copy.
flancian 4 days ago|
Found this archive link:

https://archive.is/2026.02.02-090119/https://www.wired.com/s...

thoi4o8094ijoi 5 days ago|
I wonder what kind of stories one'd hear from scam-centers in India.
rainsil 4 days ago||
We have quite a bit of insight into Indian scam centers thanks to the work of scambaiters like Jim Browning[1] who frequently hack into their CCTV cameras and desktops.

The big difference is that the workers in India are voluntarily employed. In fact they often work for companies that do legitimate customer support as well, so they maintain the facade of doing “service” for their “clients”.

It’s also worth noting that Indian call centers focus more on tech support scams rather than romance scams.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/JimBrowning

Havoc 5 days ago||
They run the same corporate style operations. Management team, performance reviews etc all that jazz
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