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Posted by meetpateltech 5 hours ago

The Codex App(openai.com)
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rubslopes 3 hours ago|
To me, the obvious next step for these companies is to integrate their products with web hosting. At this point, the remaining hurdle for non-developers is deploying their creations to the cloud with built-in monetization.
fabianlindfors 15 minutes ago||
We have been working on this, letting any coding agent define infrastructure so we can define it effortlessly: https://specific.dev. We aren't just targeting non-developers though, we think this is useful to anyone building primarily through coding agents.
jimmy76615 3 hours ago|||
Just tell it to use your gcp/aws account using the cli, makes it infinitely powerful in terms of deployment. (Also, while I might miss some parts of programming that I have given to AI, I certainly don't miss working with clouds).
wiether 2 hours ago|||
> Just tell it to use your gcp/aws account using the cli

Please don't.

People burning through their tokens allowance on Claude Code is one thing.

People having their agent unknowingly provisioning thousands of $ of cloud resources is something completely different.

theshrike79 1 hour ago||
This is also on the cloud providers for not giving us good tools to manage costs.
trunnell 2 hours ago|||
How about, "tell the agent to write instructions for cloud deployment with a cost estimate"
iamnotarobottho 2 hours ago|||
and specifically, the big companies, in a way that people notice. Claude Artifacts, AI Studio, etc. all kinda suck. If you have used Manus or connected your own CF, GCP, AWS, etc. you see how easy it could be if one of the big guys wanted it to be (or could get out of their own way).

the big boys probably don't want people who don't know sec deploying on their infra lol.

halflings 2 hours ago||
Deploying from Antigravity is as easy as say connecting the Firebase MCP [1] and asking it "deploy my app to firebase".

[1] https://firebase.google.com/docs/ai-assistance/mcp-server

anthonypasq 49 minutes ago|||
Replit already does this
falloutx 3 hours ago|||
I dont think these are made for non-devs, Lovable and other which are built for non-devs already provide hosting.
johnpaulkiser 3 hours ago||
interestingly opencode's first product was an IaC platform... seems to be where this is all going.
beklein 2 hours ago||
This will actually work well with my current workflow: dictation for prompts, parallel execution, and working on multiple bigger and smaller projects so waiting times while Codex is coding are fully utilized, plus easy commits with auto commit messages. Wow, thank you for this. Since skills are now first class tools, I will give it a try and see what I can accomplish with them.

I know/hope some OpenAI people are lurking in the comments and perhaps they will implement this, or at least consider it, but I would love to be able to use @ to add files via voice input as if I had typed it. So when I say "change the thingy at route slash to slash somewhere slash page dot tsx", I will get the same prompt as if I had typed it on my keyboard, including the file pill UI element shown in the input box. Same for slash commands. Voice is a great input modality, please make it a first class input. You are 90% there, this way I don't need my dictation app (Handy, highly recommended) anymore.

Also, I see myself using the built in console often to ls, cat, and rg to still follow old patterns, and I would love to pin the console to a specific side of the screen instead of having it at the bottom and pls support terminal tabs or I need to learn tmux.

hmokiguess 1 hour ago||
I'm still waiting for the big pivotal moment in this space, I think there is a lot of potential with rethinking an IDE to be Agent first, and lots of what is out there is still lacking. (It's like we all don't know what we don't know, so we are just recycling UX around trying to solve it)

I keep coming back to my basic terminal with tmux running multiple sessions. I recently though forked this https://github.com/tiann/hapi and been loving using tailscale to expose my setup on my mobile device for convenience (plus the voice input there)

hollowturtle 1 hour ago||
There is little to no integration between deterministic IDE features(like refactorings) and LLMs. For example I don't want a statistical tool to rename a method by predicting tokens, I want it to use IDE features and not via another higher abstraction protocol like mpc, I want deeper integration. Sometimes I look at comments in code and think "why can't I have an agent checking if the content of a comment actually reflect the code below?" I feel like we're light years away from a killer integration
hdjrudni 1 hour ago||
This might actually be another area language servers shine. As I understand it, the TS Language Server can do renames. Ergo, we ought to be able to have the LLM ask the lang server to do the rename instead of trying to do it itself. That'd be easier than trying to integrate with each IDE individually. (Whereby "IDE" seems to be synonymous with "VSCode" lately...)
hollowturtle 52 minutes ago||
Agree, another improvement i'd like along the lines or renames is lsp suggestions for method names, enums, functions, etc The llm should be able to autocomplete given lsp available symbols, this way it would avoid far less hallucinated methods
hmokiguess 42 minutes ago||
Claude, at least, already supports LSP servers though. https://code.claude.com/docs/en/plugins-reference#lsp-server...
quantumHazer 1 hour ago|||
Or maybe, hear me out, we don't need any of this ""agent"" first shiny thingy
airstrike 1 hour ago||
yeah, TUIs for AI is just lazy work imho. I'm glad at least this time it's a macOS app, but it's still just a shitty chat interface

also this feels like a unique opportunity to take some of that astronomical funding and point it towards building the right tooling for building a performant cross-platform UI toolkit in a memory-safe language—not to mention a great way for these companies to earn some goodwill from the FOSS community

surrTurr 5 hours ago||
- looks like OpenAIs answer to Claude Code Desktop / Cowork

- workspace agent runner apps (like Conductor) get more and more obsolete

- "vibe working" is becoming a thing - people use folder based agents to do their work (not just coding)

- new workflows seem to be evolving into folder based workspaces, where agents can self-configure MCP servers and skills + memory files and instructions

kinda interested to see if openai has the ideas & shipping power to compete with anthropic going forward; anthropic does not only have an edge over openai because of how op their models are at coding, but also because they innovate on workflows and ai tooling standards; openai so far has only followed in adoption (mcp, skills, now codex desktop) but rarely pushed the SOTA themselves.

OkGoDoIt 4 hours ago|
Also interesting that they are both only for macOS. I’m feeling a bit left out on the Windows and Linux side, but this seems like an ongoing trend.
abshkbh 2 hours ago|||
We did train Codex models natively on Windows - https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2-codex/ (and even 5.1-codex-max)
hdjrudni 1 hour ago||
I appreciate this (as a Windows user) but I'm also curious how necessary this was.

Like I notice in Codex in PhpStorm it uses Get-Whatever style PowerShell commands but firstly, I have a perfectly working Git-Bash installed that's like 98% compatible with Linux and Mac. Could it not use that instead of being retrained on Windows-centric commands?

But better yet, probably 95% of the commands it actually needs to run are like cat and ripgrep. Can't you just bundle the top 20 commands, make them OS-agnostic and train on that?

The last tiny bit of the puzzle I would think is the stuff that actually is OS-specific, but I don't know what that would be. Maybe some differences in file systems, sandboxing, networking.

surrTurr 4 hours ago||||
my guess is that openai/anthropic employees work on macOS and mostly vibe code these new applications (be it Atlas browser or now Codex Desktop); i wouldn't be surprised if Codex Desktop was built in a month or less;

linux / windows requires extra testing as well as some adjustments to the software stack (e.g. liquid glass only works on mac); to get the thing out the door ASAP, they release macos first.

scottyah 2 hours ago||||
A lot of companies that use Windows are likely to use Microsoft Office products, and they were all basically forced to sign a non-compete where they can't run other models- just copilot.
RazerWazer 1 hour ago|||
I'm so sick and tired of the macOS elitism in the AI/LLM world.
archiepeach 1 hour ago||
Interesting timing for me personally as I just switched from running Codex in multiple tabs in Cursor to Ghostty. It had nicer fonts by default, better tab switching that was consistent with the keyboard shortcut to switch to any tab on Mac, and it had native notifications that would ping when Codex had finished. Worktrees requiring manual configuration was probably the one sticking point, so definitely looking forward to this.
oompydoompy74 4 hours ago||
Looks like they forgot the part of the code editor where you can… edit code. Claude Code in Zed is about the most optimal experience I can imagine. I want the agent on the side and a code editor in the middle.
hmate9 3 hours ago||
That’s not really a negative for me as I can easily jump into vscode where I already have my workspace for coding set up exactly as I like it. This being a completely separate app just to get the agentic work right is a good direction imo
falloutx 3 hours ago|||
Yeah but its annoying to find the file the agent just edited without any IDE/editor integration, you have to add that command which opens the file in vscode after editing.
layer8 3 hours ago|||
It would be nice to have an integrated development environment.
hdjrudni 1 hour ago||
How dare you want your IDE to be integrated!
elAhmo 3 hours ago||
Usage like this is becoming a rarity. Most people are editing significantly less and "agent interfaces" are slowly taking the focus.
verdverm 3 hours ago|||
"most" people aren't even using AI yet

Of those that are, most are not vibe coding, so an editor is still required at many points

calebhwin 3 hours ago||
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ativzzz 2 hours ago|||
For greenfield apps you can vibecode it. For existing complex apps, where existing products where customers pay us a lot of money for working software, understanding the changes and context surrounding them in the code is critical or else nobody knows how the system works anymore and maintenance and support becomes impossible.
samstokes 3 hours ago||
Bit of a buried lede:

> For a limited time we're including Codex with ChatGPT Free

Is this the first free frontier coding agent? (I know there have been OSS coding agents for years, but not Codex/Claude Code.)

jsight 3 hours ago|
That depends on whether Gemini CLI counts. I've had generally bad experiences with it, but it is free for at least some usage.
falloutx 3 hours ago||
Google also has aistudio.google.com which is Lovable competitor and its free for unlimited use. That seems to work so much better than gemini CLI even on similar tasks
Dowwie 1 hour ago||
Hey, that's great OpenAI. Now add about 6 zeroes to the end of the weekly token limit for your customers and maybe we could use the app
hollowturtle 1 hour ago||
I don't know you, but apart from ai tools race fatigue(feel pretty much like frameworks fatigue), all I see is mouse traveling a lot between far distant small elements, buttons and textareas. AI should have brought innovation even in UIs we basically stopped innovating there
epolanski 2 hours ago|
OT: I never liked about codex how it didn't ask for confirmations before editing. While Claude has auto accept off by default I never understood why codex didn't have it. I want to iterate on LLMs edit suggestions.

Did they fix it?

Otherwise I'm not interested.

PeterStuer 2 hours ago|
At least codex inside pycharm has auto edit off by default.
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