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Posted by meetpateltech 8 hours ago

The Codex App(openai.com)
486 points | 313 commentspage 4
hollowturtle 4 hours ago||
I don't know you, but apart from ai tools race fatigue(feel pretty much like frameworks fatigue), all I see is mouse traveling a lot between far distant small elements, buttons and textareas. AI should have brought innovation even in UIs we basically stopped innovating there
punnerud 4 hours ago||
When can I get remote access in the iPhone app? Start on my laptop, check results using Tailscale/VPN and add follow up’s on the mobile to run on the computer. Know many that would love this feature.
blueaquilae 6 hours ago||
This is an ode to opencode and how openai, very strangely, is just porting layout and feature of real open-source.

So much valuation, so much intern competetion and shenanigans than the creatives left.

solomatov 8 hours ago||
Is it open source? Do they disclose which framework they use for the GUI? Is it Electron or Tauri?
surrTurr 7 hours ago|
lol ofc not

looks like the same framework they used to build chatgpt desktop (electron)

edit - from another comment:

> Hi! Romain here, I work on Codex at OpenAI. We totally hear you. The team actually built the app in Electron specifically so we can support Windows and Linux as well. We shipped macOS first, but Windows is coming very soon. Appreciate you calling this out. Stay tuned!

shevy-java 6 hours ago||
No.

I am glad to not depend on AI. It would annoy me to no ends how it tries to assimilate everything. It's like systemd on roids in this aspect. It will swallow up more and more tasks. Granted, in a way this is saying "then it was not necessary to have this things anymore now that AI solves it all", but I am skeptical of "the praised land" here. Skynet was not trusted back in 1982 or so. I don't trust AI either.

FeteCommuniste 6 hours ago||
I'm the same way but I've got the gloomy sense that folks like us are about to be swept aside by the flood if we don't "adapt."

I got invites to seven AI-centered meetings late last week.

deepfriedbits 6 hours ago|||
Same. And indeed, it's here. The genie is not going back into the bottle, so we have to learn how to live in this new world.

Eric Schmidt has spoken a lot recently about how it's one of the biggest advances in human history and it's hard to disagree with him, even if some aspects make me anxious.

anonymous908213 5 hours ago|||
One of the biggest advances in human history, and yet the owners of the technology with access to an unlimited number of "agents" using frontier models still can't release a desktop chat application without using Electron to bring in several hundred mb of bloat for displaying text. Someone's going to have to explain this one to me because the math is not mathing.
reddalo 5 hours ago||
Exactly. If AI really worked, they would've released a native app. And it wouldn't take much to also get a Windows and a Linux native app, wouldn't it?

Apparently, the Codex app itself is proof that AI is not that good at doing what people think it does.

bonesss 5 hours ago|||
How come if I download code from GitHub, rename some stuff, and republish it under another license I’m a bad guy, but if I ask ChatGFY to do it for me I’m a 10x Chad? … someone is gonna figure that part out in court. I remember what code SCO used to make hay, and I know what side the MPAA, RIAA, Google, and NVidia Are gonna be on at the end of the day.

Replacing workers with things you can’t beat, sue, intimidate, or cajole? Someone is gonna do something to make that not cool in MBA land. I think if one of my employees LL-MessedUp something, and I were upset, watching that same person stealing my money haplessly turn to an LLM for help might land me in jail.

I kinda love LLMs, I’ve always struggled to write emails without calling people names. There’s some clear coding tooling utility. But some of this current hype wave is insano-balls from a business perspective. Pets.com X here’s-my-ssh-keys. Just wild.

ghosty141 5 hours ago|||
I think a lot of AI talk doesn't explain where it shines the brightest (imo): Write the code you don't want to write.

I've recently had an issue "add VNC authentication" which covers adding vnc password auth to our inhouse vnc server at work.

This is not hard, but just a bit of tedious work getting the plumbing done, adding some UI for the settings, fiddle with some bits according to the spec.

But it's (at least to me) not very enjoyable, there is nothing to learn, nothing new to discover, no much creativity necessary etc. and this is where Codex comes in. As long as you give it clearly scoped tasks in an environment where it can use existing structures and convetions, it will deliver. In this case it implemented 85% of the feature perfectly and I only had to tweak minor things like refactor 1-2 functions. Obviously I read and understood and checked everything it wrote, that is an absolute must for serious work.

So my point is, use AI as the "code monkey". I believe most developers enjoy the creative aspects of the job, but not the "type C++ on your keyboard". AI can help with the latter, it will type what you tell it and you can focuse on the architecture and creative part of the whole thing.

You don't have to trust AI in that sense, use it like autocompletion, you can program perfectly fine without it but it makes your fingers hurt more.

marstall 5 hours ago|||
i wonder if the skills will divide a bit. That there will be those who still program by hand - and this will be a needed skill, though AI will be a part of their daily toolset to a greater or lesser degree.

Then there will be the AI wranglers who act almost like DevOps engineers for the AI - producing software in a different way ...

dsiegel2275 6 hours ago|||
Good luck.
rendleflag 6 hours ago||
I feel the same way about using the Internet or books to code. I'd rather just have the source code so that I'm not dependent on anything other then my own brain.
keeeba 4 hours ago||
Is everything OpenAI do/release now a response to something Anthropic have recently released?

I remember the days when it was worth reading about their latest research/release. Halcyon days indeed.

gordon_freeman 5 hours ago||
How does Codex mac app compare with Cursor? If anyone who tried both can explain here?

My experience with Cursor is generally good and I like that it gives me UX of using VS Code and also allows selection of multiple models to choose if one model is stuck on the prompt and does not work.

throwaway314155 4 hours ago|
Coding agents with full automation like this require a different workflow that is almost purely conversational compared to Cursor/Windsurf/VS Code. It requires more trust in the model (but you can always keep Cursor open off to the side and verify its edits). But, once you get into the right rhythm with it, it can be _really_ powerful.
xiphias2 8 hours ago||
I guess the next it was meant to happen...I tried Google's Antigravity and found it quite buggy.

May give a go at this and Claude Code desktop as well, but Cursor guys are still working the hardest to keep themselves alive.

joe8756438 8 hours ago|
Is there any marked difference or benefit over Claude Code?
RA_Fisher 8 hours ago|
It’s possible to run up to 4 agents at once vs. Claude Code’s single thread. Sometimes I’ll find meaningful quality differences between what agents produce.
joe8756438 7 hours ago||
Interesting. Has anyone found running multiple parallel agents useful in practice?
esafak 5 hours ago||
You'd save time compared with running them in serial obviously?
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