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Posted by trms 4 days ago

Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub(forums.ankiweb.net)
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greenburger 4 days ago|
I've used Flashcards Deluxe for years and been very happy (no affiliation):

https://orangeorapple.com/flashcards/

Easy to import and export my cards, plenty of options for tweaking the algorithms for my use.

colin_jack 4 days ago||
I've started using LLMs to help with card creation, and reviewing historic cards. Its been increasingly successful, I still end up with cards tailored to me, and the card quality has gone up (as I've asked the LLM to look for other views/sources and to do associate research to produce high quality cards).

Having ability to bake some of that into the tool in a configurable way would be ideal, and I hope thats sort of path they go down.

I realise in meantime plugins are an option, but I've found the quality of plugins very mixed.

teruakohatu 4 days ago||
The best thing that can happen is a fork. There is no way this will make the app worse, at least if you use a phone to do the reviewing. Syncing is sure to become a subscription.
bigDinosaur 4 days ago|
I still haven't quite understood how Anki can apparently be profitable when the web sync with Ankiweb apparently supports an unlimited amount of data (surely some people heavily abuse this - but one never hears about fair use being applied?). Even legit and honest use can mean massive collection sizes since you can have any rich media in an Anki collection.
stuxnet79 4 days ago||
A few things. Up until now Anki was not a business and was not meant to be profitable.

AnkiWeb also does not support an unlimited amount of data. It's evident that their storage requirements aren't infinite. They aggressively cull content. Not syncing for 6 months results in automatic deletion last I checked.

bigDinosaur 3 days ago||
I would still expect ingress and egress costs to be significant - as well as storage for content that isn't culled. And while it was not 'meant to be profitable' my point is that it was profitable, apparently exclusively from revenue from the iOS app which I still find surprising that it would cover the Ankiweb costs.
hermanzegerman 4 days ago||
Looks like it's already going in the wrong direction.

"Our agreement with Damien stipulates that the current AGPLv3 code remains open source"

It sounds like a very specific dementi.

digiown 3 days ago|
There's no CLA on Anki. Even dae does not have the right to relicense it.
hermanzegerman 3 days ago||
They still have the closed source AnkiWeb Backend to do some annoying fuckery
hermanzegerman 4 days ago||
Oh for fucks sakes. No please no.

AnkiHub was already annoying with shoving AI into their Add-On without anyone asking for it.

I don't think this will go well

cosmic_cheese 4 days ago|
Can't help but wonder if it might not be time to start a FOSS alternative just in case Anki begins to decline.

It might not be the worst idea to do that anyway. Anki is great, but there's plenty of room for improvement. Off the top of my head, an architecture that doesn't involve fragile and finicky python bits and is designed to support multiple independent clients would be a nice step up (Telegram is a good model here — make a core lib with all the nuts and bolts which devs build clients around).

pityJuke 4 days ago|||
> make a core lib with all the nuts and bolts which devs build clients around

That is modern Anki. The core is a Rust library, which all the clients (desktop, web, Android and iOS) use. [0]

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46299897

cosmic_cheese 4 days ago||
I learned something today, thank you.

Even so, I believe there's room for another open competitor or two in this space.

hermanzegerman 4 days ago||||
Anki already is FOSS and AGPLv3, so we can always fork
knubie 4 days ago|||
It's not FOSS but Mochi [0] is a pretty good alternative.

[0] https://mochi.cards/

hermanzegerman 4 days ago||
I don't think anyone will comfortable pour 1000 hours into a closed source app. Especially because Anki is what it is today due to the numerous add ons
NormenKD 4 days ago||
Possible alternative to check out (not affiliated):

https://mochi.cards/

treetalker 4 days ago||
Mochi has really come a long way and has some wonderful built-in functionality. The automatic text-to-speech template options are high quality and randomize a variety of voices in each language. It's also doing some cool things with dynamic cards and LLMs.

Impressively, Mochi now offers FSRS (beta but still available in the app's main settings) and both the type of scheduler (Mochi default or FSRS) and the schedulers' settings are configurable on a deck-by-deck basis.

The developer is very responsive to folks on the forum and often quickly adds requested features.

Overall the app is well-designed and fun to use. I appreciate the swipe left/right to fail/pass cards on iOS. My one complaint is that the web clipper only works with Chrome and Firefox, but not with Safari (surprisingly). It would also be useful to have a global hotkey/palette to quick-add cards to various decks, similar to how OmniFocus lets you quickly add items to the OF Inbox.

cvhc 4 days ago|||
I've been paying for the pro version for a while. It's templating is really powerful and easy to use. For my vocab deck, I set up a input field (e.g., word) and a bunch of derived fields (dict definition, AI-generated example, TTS audio). To add a new card, I just input the word and other fields will be automatically populated.

Technically this can be implemented in Anki as an addon. But only the desktop version supports addons and the default UI is a bit too complicated.

crumbo 4 days ago|||
Looks nice but being an Electron-based app is a huge dealbreaker for me.
arjie 4 days ago||
I imagine it's for Anki users and Anki already embeds a HTML engine (for the cards).
Gormo 4 days ago||
I don't think the main objection that people have to Electron is that it includes HTML rendering functionality. A proper desktop application that includes an HTML renderer for content formatting is a very different thing from a framework that implements an application entirely as an encapsulated webapp.
saubeidl 4 days ago||
Can you import Anki decks and review history?
eduFreedom 3 days ago||
I shared my thoughts as a veteran user and contributor to Anki, as well as a former AnkiHub team member https://youtu.be/13p0t8Tv-jw
p0w3n3d 4 days ago||
I learned about Anki recently, and as I was told, this is somehow a standard on medical studies, where a whole bunch of knowledge must be memorised
clbrmbr 4 days ago||
Andrew (the CTO of AnkiHub) is smart as a whip and has built an impressive and seemingly sustainable business. Seems like the ideal steward for Anki!
michaelcampbell 3 days ago|
Ideal for Andrew, maybe. For the users? The jury is out.
quijoteuniv 4 days ago|
People usually say they want to change the world, then there are people that just change the world. Thank you for Anki (heart)
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