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Posted by meetpateltech 13 hours ago

Claude is a space to think(www.anthropic.com)
337 points | 182 commentspage 3
dbgrman 6 hours ago|
100%. Love this approach by Anthropic. The Meta "monetization league" is assembling at OpenAI and doing what they've done best at Meta.

However, I do think we need to take Anthropic's word with a grain of salt, too. To say they're fully working in the user's interest has yet to be proven. This trust would require a lot of effort to be earned. Once the companies intends to or becomes public, incentives change, investors expect money and throwing your users under the bus is a tried and tested way of increasing shareholder value.

titzer 6 hours ago||
> There are many good places for advertising. A conversation with Claude is not one of them.

> ...but including ads in conversations with Claude would be incompatible with what we want Claude to be: a genuinely helpful assistant for work and for deep thinking.

Sadly, with my disillusionment with the tech industry, plus the trend of the past 20 years, this smacks of Larry Page's early statements about how bad advertising could distort search results and Google would never do that. Unsurprisingly, I am not able to find the exact quote with Google.

Trufa 6 hours ago|
Yeah, it’s a shame we’ve all grown so jarred, I do see this better than nothing.

In this animal farm Orwellian cycle we’ve been going through, at least they start here, unlike others.

I for one commend this, but stay vigilant.

Imnimo 6 hours ago||
>An advertising-based business model would introduce incentives that could work against this principle.

I agree with this - I'm not so much worried that ChatGPT is going to silently insert advertising copy into model answers. I'm worried that advertising alongside answers creates bad incentives that then drive future model development. We saw Google Search go down this path.

ptx 6 hours ago||
So they have "made a choice" to keep Claude ad-free, they say. "Today [...] Claude’s only incentive is to give a helpful answer", they say. But there's nothing that suggests that they can't make a different choice tomorrow, or whenever it suits them. It's not profitable to betray your trust too early.
jhickok 6 hours ago|
I can't really imagine any statement they could give that would ease concerns that at some point in time they change their mind. But for now, it is a relief to read, even if this is a bit of marketing. The longer it goes without being enshittified the better.
smusamashah 6 hours ago||
Claude have posted on number of very sarcastic videos on twitter that take a jibe at ads https://x.com/claudeai/status/2019071118036942999 with an ending line "Ads are coming to IA. But not to Claude."
s3p 5 hours ago||
Good on Anthropic! I appreciate how deliberate they are on maintaining user trust. Have preferred Claude's responses more through the API, so I don't imagine this would have affected me as much but it is still nice to see.
tolerance 5 hours ago||
Anthropic probably saw how much money they made off of the Moltbot hype and figured that they don’t need ad revenue. They can go a step further and build a marketplace for similar setups, paying the developers who make them in micro transactions per tokens.
nasorenga 6 hours ago||
It's nice that they don't show ads in conversations with Claude - but I wonder if they collect profiling information from my prompts and activities to sell to advertising firms.
tiffanyh 8 hours ago||
What other interaction models exist for Claude given that Anthropic seems to be stressing so much that this is for "conversations"?

(Props for them for doing this, don't know how this is long-term sustainable for them though ... especially given they want to IPO and there will be huge revenue/margin pressures)

erelong 7 hours ago|
Don't understand why more companies don't just make ads opt-in as a trade for more features

A lot of people are ok with ad supported free tiers

(Also is it possible to do ads in a privacy respecting way or do people just object to ads across the board?)

derektank 7 hours ago|
I would object to ads across the board in this case (though I’m generally fine with even targeted ads). It would create a customer-client relationship between companies paying to advertise and the AI company, creating an incentive for Anthropic to manipulate the Claude service on their behalf. As an end user that seeks input from Claude on purchasing decisions, I do not want there to be any question as to whether or not it was subtly manipulated.
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