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Posted by Torq_boi 2 days ago

Don't rent the cloud, own instead(blog.comma.ai)
1180 points | 493 commentspage 8
tirant 2 days ago|
Well, their comment section is fore sure not running on premises, but on the cloud:

"An error occurred: API rate limit already exceeded for installation ID 73591946."

nottorp 2 days ago||
> We use SSDs for reliability and speed.

Hey, how do SSDs fail lately? Do they ... vanish off the bus still? Or do they go into read only mode?

Semaphor 2 days ago||
In case anyone from comma.ai reads this: "CTO @ comma.ai" the link at the end is broken, it’s relative instead of absolute.
croisillon 2 days ago|
no because it's on premise you see? you don't need to access the world wide web, just their server

/s

Havoc 2 days ago||
Interesting that they go for no redundancy
figmert 2 days ago|
What redundancy are we talking about? AWS has proven to the world on multiple occasions that redundancy across geo locations is useless, because if us-east-1 is down, their whole cloud is done, causing a big chunk of the world to be down.

Half sarcasm of course, but it goes to show that the world is not going to fall apart in many cases when it comes to software. Sure, it's not ideal in lots of cases, but we'll survive without redundancy.

lawrenceyan 1 day ago||
Hetzner bare metal ran much of crypto for many years before they cracked down on it.
gwbas1c 2 days ago||
TLDR:

> In comma’s case I estimate we’ve spent ~5M on our data center, and we would have spent 25M+ had we done the same things in the cloud.

IMO, that's the biggie. It's enough to justify paying someone to run their datacenter. I wish there was a bit more detail to justify those assumptions, though.

That being said, if their needs grow by orders of magnitude, I'd anticipate that they would want to move their servers somewhere with cheaper electricity.

assaddayinh 1 day ago||
Is there a client to sell on your own unused private cloud?
intalentive 2 days ago||
I like Hotz’s style: simply and straightforwardly attempting the difficult and complex. I always get the impression: “You don’t need to be too fancy or clever. You don’t need permission or credentials. You just need to go out and do the thing. What are you waiting for?”
tirant 2 days ago|
This was written by Harald Schäfer, the CTO of comma.ai. I'm not so sure if G. Hotz is still involved in comma.ai.
piker 2 days ago|||
Don't think he is, but it does seem like he inspired a hacker mentality in the shop during his tenure.
intalentive 2 days ago|||
Ah I missed that.
squeefers 2 days ago||
mark my words. cloud will fall out of fashion, but it will come back in fashion under another name in some amount of years. its cyclical.
lovegrenoble 2 days ago|
I've just shifted to Hetzner, no regret
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