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Posted by ahamez 2 days ago

Company as Code(blog.42futures.com)
262 points | 127 commentspage 6
fergie 1 day ago|
Surely, in just about every company today, all of the examples in the article are already handled by databases and SQL?
qwertyuiop_ 2 days ago||
The OP doesn’t understand the “gray zone” corporations operate. Pretty much every interaction, decision and actions operate in this domain. Ambiguity and intentional compartmentalization on a need to know basis.
miohtama 2 days ago||
I recommend book Accelerado by Charlie Stross:

Um.” Manfred finds it, floating three tiers down an elaborate object hierarchy. It’s flashing for attention. There’s a priority interrupt, an incoming lawsuit that hasn’t propagated up the inheritance tree yet. He prods at the object with a property browser. “I’m afraid I’m not a director of that company, Mr. Glashwiecz. I appear to be retained by it as a technical contractor with nonexecutive power, reporting to the president, but frankly, this is the first time I’ve ever heard of the company. However, I can tell you who’s in charge if you want.” “Yes?” The attorney sounds almost interested. Manfred figures it out; the guy’s in New Jersey. It must be about three in the morning over there. Malice—revenge for waking him up—sharpens Manfred’s voice. “The president of http://agalmic.holdings .root.184.97.AB5 is http://agalmic.holdings .root.184.97.201. The secretary is http://agalmic.holdings .root.184.D5, and the chair is http://agalmic.holdings .root.184.E8.FF. All the shares are owned by those companies in equal measure, and I can tell you that their regulations are written in Python. Have a nice day, now!”

Multicomp 2 days ago||
thanks for the recommendation, I've put a hold on it for my library now.

This article reminds me of another book [1] called Holacracy where how a business is run is systematized according to other pre-defined principles. David Allen, a productivity trainer, used it at his own company for several years before eventually moving away from it because the ongoing overhead to keep its system up was too much.

I wonder if this system will end up like that as well. I love the idea, but I think humans operate at a squishier level than our computers do, there's a risk of 'massive bureaucratic dehumanization and inflexible processes' and the Iron Law of Organizations that make such efforts as that book and this article fraught with peril. Taylorism has its limits.

But hey, if this works, I'll be excited to see more businesses adopting better practices and less painful fumbling around trying to do practices in an organic or unplanned way.

[1] https://www.holacracy.org/blog/dac-ceo-reflects-on-holacracy...

AceJohnny2 1 day ago||
Accelerando's algorithmic company structure and (near?)DDoS the corporate legal system is the one idea from Accelerando that has stuck with me the most over the 20 years since I first read it, and I came here to make the exact same reference.

(that, and the notion of Exocortex, which is what I've named some of my smartphones...)

djeastm 1 day ago||
Massively complex cells of living organisms have their entire functionality encoded in DNA, so why can't a business encode their functionality, too?
WestCoader 1 day ago||
>Reimagining organisational structure *for the digital age.*

If you're just now thinking about it in this context, then you're about two decades too late.

alexsmolen 1 day ago||
I love this idea despite the real world operational challenges - most people with governance responsibilities in organizations don't want to code, and code is often too precise to model messy social/organizational context without constant tweaking, tending, and exception management.

I'm an advocate for bringing software culture to GRC, or as it's sometimes called “GRC Engineering”. While there are plenty of products to automate evidence generation for auditors, the underlying policies and documents that they prescribe are usually still old-school Word/PDF-style boilerplate junk.

I'm working on an open source project for security policies/processes/standards that map back to underlying frameworks (e.g. SOC 2, GDPR, ISO 27001, etc.) Docs are Markdown with YAML frontmatter metadata, interlinks generated automatically, site is published via GitHub actions.

The code is at https://github.com/engseclabs/graphgrc, and you can see an example published site here https://graphgrc.engseclabs.com.

Would love to know if others find it useful or have built similar systems.

Terretta 1 day ago|
> I'm working on an open source project for security policies/processes/standards that map back to underlying frameworks (e.g. SOC 2, GDPR, ISO 27001, etc.) Docs are Markdown with YAML frontmatter metadata, interlinks generated automatically, site is published via GitHub actions.

> Would love to know if others find it useful or have built similar systems.

Yes, to both for over a decade now, and by now there are many so one doesn't need to rewalk the whole path, some are developed in open on GitHub.

Commercial firms have built on that for live monitoring of the mappings, although don't scratch at that too hard, it's generally mostly (a) self-selected subsets of controls, and (b) manually self-reported at the end of the day.

Product examples: https://delve.co or https://safebase.io/products/trust-center

Applied example: https://trust.openai.com

Have you Googled this or talked to large firms (e.g. banks) that care about avoiding footfalls with regularly scheduled regulator exams? Writing your own shows you grok the concept, many need (well paid!) help applying something off the shelf or from OSS.

alexsmolen 1 day ago||
In my research I haven’t come across the prior art you suggest exists. The trust centers you linked aren’t fungible with what I’m building with GraphGRC. The idea is to make all your security docs just a GitHub repo with structured markdown that permits useful automation (e.g. generating linked internal site, validating all docs have been “reviewed” annually by checking metadata, change control via PR, etc.)

There are plenty of GRC products out there and are popular for good reasons, but I don’t think any of them are Git/Markdown/developer-first.

thaack 2 days ago||
This is essentiality the concept of LDAP/Active Directory.
exterm 1 day ago||
Cybernetics
jstrong 1 day ago||
man, I can't wait to wrangle a giant YAML file to be able to take a sick day!
elcapitan 1 day ago|
Every few years some technocrat looks at the organizational chart of a company and yells "why is this not a machine yet". And then the next 5 years people have to come up with elaborate ways how to do the actual work inside the artificial abstraction that the technocrats create because of this.
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