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Posted by mfld 1 day ago

The New Collabora Office for Desktop(www.collaboraonline.com)
194 points | 120 commentspage 3
tiahura 1 day ago|
Why doesn't Amazon adopt libreoffice?
bigfatkitten 12 hours ago||
Having the entire software ecosystem concentrated in Amazon, Google and Microsoft is not at all a desirable state of affairs.
drzaiusx11 1 day ago||
From my understanding Amazon at least internally uses Salesforce's Quip product which is closer to Google docs than office (live collab). There's still MS office use as well depending on org. Just curious, were you suggesting libreoffice as a cost savings measure or are you just sick of Quip?
TheAmazingRace 1 day ago||
Honestly, OnlyOffice works extremely well for my purposes, and I install it on all my friends' PCs. It looks a lot like MS Office and is quite compatible with a variety of documents I've tried, in my experience.
tomtomistaken 1 day ago|
OnlyOffice is nice if you ignore the Russian background of it. I wouldn't trust it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1j7zlf2/onlyoffi...

defrim 1 day ago|||
As a devout supporter of Ukraine, I'm not sure it's fair to denounce the FOSS version of the app just because it was built by developers that reside in Russia. We all know that the company outwardly stating "we are against the invasion of Ukraine" wouldn't end well for them, and as long as you're not paying for it, I don't see a huge difference using this vs. your average American software (in which the developers also reside in a country with questionable government leadership). Enlighten me if I'm wrong though
tomtomistaken 1 day ago||
It’s about trusting the build. You can’t always know what happened between source and release.
drzaiusx11 1 day ago||
I'd trust a Linux distro build of a Russian FOSS product a bit more than a windows binary from their website. So trust here is context dependent, at least for me. I still use Audacity for example and it has similar ownership issues.
upboundspiral 1 day ago||||
I stopped using it more for technical reasons but when I was using it I installed it as a flatpak and removed network access.
BirAdam 1 day ago||||
The people of a country are not members of that country's ruling regime. It makes no logical sense to say that one cannot trust open source software from Russia merely for it being Russian in origin. Not all people in the USA are CIA, and not all Russians are FSB.

Are the people of the USA responsible for everything the US government does? Is every single person living in China responsible for the actions of the CCP? Is every single Russian personally responsible for everything that Putin does?

bigfatkitten 1 day ago||
It doesn’t matter. If the FSB knocks on their door and says “add this extra code to your builds or you’ll disappear into the basement of the Lubyanka”, what do you think they’ll say?
Propelloni 1 day ago||
True, but we have the same issue with US-based software, or any closed source software really. At least here I can take the source code and check for myself, or let an AI, before building.
TheAmazingRace 1 day ago|||
This is honestly news to me. I had no idea.
nico 1 day ago|
This is probably great software. But the design, both of the site and the office software, looks so dated, it doesn’t even tempt me to try it
nritchie 1 day ago||
I don't care about dated looks. I do find MS Office's pressure to use OneDrive frustrating and annoying. Honestly, older UIs for office suite products just feel more direct and responsive than the clever ribbon bars. Excel used to be svelte (25 years ago or more...) Now it feels bloated and clumsy. LibreOffice Calc (same parentage as Collabora Office) feels more like Excel used to feel. Similar complaints about Word.
karel-3d 1 day ago|||
It is actually very, very janky and behaves like someone tried to reimplement ~15 years old Office UI in JavaScript. Not in a good way.

I really, really want them to be successful, but I cannot pretend it's a pleasure to use at all.

doubled112 1 day ago|||
When I tried it last, it was painfully slow. Have there been any improvements on the performance front lately?

Typing in a word processor should not have input lag in 2025. It wasn't just a little lag, but the type and watch it catch up kind of lag.

karel-3d 1 day ago||
It's laggy on MacBook Pro M4 Max. I have no idea what is it doing.
mixmastamyk 1 day ago|||
Could you be more specific?
scottmcdot 1 day ago|||
Working with data I need to be objective, and while thinking objectively I prefer brutal/minimal ist UIs
boobsbr 1 day ago|||
It looks like MS Office, what's so bad about it?
PxldLtd 1 day ago||
It looks like a 2015 wordpress template
esafak 1 day ago||
The open source world needs more designers.
homebrewer 1 day ago|||
Looking at what they did to commercial software that used to have excellent, high density UIs, maybe they should stay where they are.
tracker1 1 day ago||||
A lot of open-source doesn't have a process to integrate and follow a design strategy from a designer. A business can mandate that work be done to adapt/follow a given design strategy... for open-source it's often harder to do so... and even then you face the same or more resistance to change.

It took basically a corporate control for Audacity to make its' difficult transition to a better design from its' mediocre one. That said, I'd love to see something modern transformed from The Gimp's core in a similar way. That doesn't even begin to cover what you might want in terms of inter-app collaboration...

KdenLive, Blender, Gimp, Krita, InkScape, Audacity and other tooling, as an example, all use different UI/UX base libraries, and no clean way to cross-integrate features between them if someone wanted to assemble an open-source Adobe alternative. There's no baseline equivalent to even MS/Office's use of COM/DCOM for interoperability.

esafak 1 day ago||
Good points. Designers need to be first-class citizens whose input is sought early on, not to attempt to make a purse out of the finished pig's ear. RFCs are a venue for this. Designers, for their part, need to share their ready-to-go libraries in all the popular frontend frameworks. The two could also collaborate on developing tools to automate design linting, similar to automated code review programmers use.
nico 1 day ago|||
For the past week or so I’ve been using pencil.dev and I’m impressed. It’s like a local Figma that connects to Claude code or cursor, and you can just ask it to design stuff

It definitely has its bugs and it eats up tokens/context like crazy. But it make product development so much easier and faster, while providing great design