Posted by JumpCrisscross 1 day ago
I don’t get why people keep saying things like this.
If a person is convicted of a crime and they are out of jail, it is everyone else’s right to interact with them as if they had done nothing wrong. Isn’t that how the whole system is set up?
I think the reason it feels weird is because his sentence was ridiculously short and should have been much longer. But that is not up to everyone else to compensate for. Can we instead start focusing on how shocking it is that he spent so little time in jail, and then discuss why that happened?
he got a slap on the wrist and did not serve meaningful time.
if I was a shareholder I would not want money flowing to a pedophile and would certainly not want money flowing to them as they continued to molest kids even after their sentence.
And, at the time of people dealing with Epstein before the second arrest, I thought he had “only” been convicted of a very reduced charge of something like “soliciting an underage prostitute”, not trafficking at all.
https://forum.agora-dialogue.com/2025/12/19/epstein-israel-a...
Absolutely bonkers to say he's a "somewhat flawed person" when there's gigs of PDFs of some of the most heinous things imaginable.
Whereas Epstein was convicted solicited sex from 16 year old. There's a mountain of a difference between them.
Here are the people who signed petition against Roman's conviction
* Woody Allen
* Wes Anderson
* Jean-Jacques Annaud
* Asia Argento (later expressed regret)
* Darren Aronofsky
* Paul Auster
* Monica Bellucci
* Gael García Bernal
* Adrien Brody
* Penélope Cruz
* Alfonso Cuarón
* Guillermo del Toro
* Jonathan Demme
* Alexandre Desplat
* Xavier Dolan (later expressed regret)
* Stephen Frears
* Harrison Ford
* Terry Gilliam
* Taylor Hackford
* Buck Henry
* Alejandro G. Iñárritu
* Jeremy Irons
* Neil Jordan
* Harmony Korine
* John Landis
* David Lynch (his daughter claimed posthumous regret in 2025)
* Michael Mann
* Sam Mendes
* Mike Nichols
* Alexander Payne
* Natalie Portman (later expressed regret)
* Brett Ratner
* Walter Salles
* Jerry Schatzberg
* Julian Schnabel
* Martin Scorsese
* Steven Soderbergh
* Tilda Swinton
* Kristin Scott Thomas
* Tom Tykwer
* Emma Thompson (later expressed regret)
* Pedro Almodóvar
* Wong Kar-wai
* Salman Rushdie
* Milan Kundera
* Diane von Furstenberg
* Neil Gaiman (signed a related petition)
* Meryl Streep (publicly supported without signing)
* Whoopi Goldberg (publicly supported without signing)
* Debra Winger (publicly supported without signing)
* Harvey Weinstein (publicly defended him)
Why don't we hold these people to the same standards?
Also all those people can fuck themselves. There’s more than enough blame to go around.
You for instance seem to be in the same boat as the people in this list, so I won’t judge you as harshly as Epstein.
Why are you carrying so much weight for Epstein and associates?
The "oh this is just repetitive/tiresome/old" energy is an emotional trope that is itself repetitive, tiresome, and old.
Dopamine addicted brain demands the circus bring out a new act! Otherwise it might calm down enough to notice all it's given to eat is bread!
Amazing how the adults are just like kids watching Saturday morning cartoons; aww news interruption! How dare reality intrude on my disassociation!
If you had any, would you tell anyone about them?
If no, why is that?
If Jeffrey Epstein were a startup founder or if he had written a really important compiler or something that linked him to tech more directly, more people here would be defending him.
Meanwhile these people often got where they were explicitly through nepotism
And no, Epstein did not stopped his abuses after his network got him incredibly sweet deal and prevented further investigation. He did not even operated in secrecy after that.