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Posted by cdrnsf 10 hours ago

Flock CEO calls Deflock a “terrorist organization” (2025) [video](www.youtube.com)
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alphazard 8 hours ago|
This statement essentially boils down to "The only right way to fight me is in an environment where I expect to win"

That's how you know the DeFlock strategy is effective. They aren't playing the game that the CEO wants to play, they are playing the actual game. The actual game is minimizing the impact of cameras that are now everywhere.

Some individuals may take it upon themselves to vandalize the cameras, which can't be planned via conspiracy (that would be illegal), but those radical individuals can be "set up for success" through information. This strategy of creating an environment where effective vandalism is easy, is also part of the actual game.

0ldblu3 8 hours ago||
Their are documented cases of Flock cameras that can see into private residences. What if one of those cameras recorded an underage person? Would Flock be responsible for collecting and distributing CSAM?
ninalanyon 7 hours ago|
Of course not. CSAM rules apply only the plebs, not the rich and well connected.
direwolf20 2 hours ago||
We saw this with Twitter's child porn maker. When it was called out, did Elon turn it off? No he saw it was popular so he paywalled it. He got away with that, but he's only well connected in the US not in France so he didn't get away with it in France.
trymas 9 hours ago||
I “like” how Overton window (??? I hope I use it right) shifted dramatically in USA.

- “law and order” is “good”, when _de facto_ most of constitution is not being applied for a year and laws or court orders are applied selectively. Not to say that “law and order” is vastly different depending on the size of your bank account;

- “terrorist” now is anything you don’t like, especially if it’s anti establishment. True freedom of speech is now apparently “violence” (and of course this dictatorial (adjacent) government would think that, as it’s biggest danger);

- “antifa” is apparently now a boogeyman, though I’d say he used it correctly as he is (apparently) fascist;

Also it is forced against people, how population can choose otherwise?

sjsdaiuasgdia 8 hours ago|
"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition...There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."
kylebebak 4 hours ago||
"For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law"
tasty_freeze 6 hours ago||
I wonder how he would feel about a competitor putting a flock-like camera outside his house so that anyone who wants to can learn whenever any car, perhaps his car, enters or leaves his home driveway.

Would he be happy with this, or would he become a "terrorist" by objecting?

FarmerPotato 5 hours ago||
Or tracking the tail number of his private jet, published each time it moves.
Fairburn 6 hours ago||
He would cry and cry
sjs382 7 hours ago||
Flock is a terrorist organization.
4MOAisgoodenuf 9 hours ago||
His last name being “Langley” is a bit too on the nose. Like something out of a Pynchon novel.
Clownworldoff 6 hours ago||
They are building a surveillance state, LOL. The AI, Datacenters, the flock cameras, slow social media ban, the private police, etc. West, especially USA is slowly getting the taste of their own medicine.
direwolf20 2 hours ago|
Foucault's boomerang
JumpCrisscross 9 hours ago||
Does anyone have a template for a network audit that one could request of a local police department that would disclose access logs for Flock Safety data?
text0404 8 hours ago|
A lot of jurisdictions actually require the data to be public! For example, ctrl-f "download csv" on this page for central LA PD: https://transparency.flocksafety.com/central-la-pd- . Not all jurisdictions require this, but if you can guess the URLs (https://transparency.flocksafety.com/<DEPARTMENT ID>) you can find quite a few, or just Google "YOUR PD flock safety portal". (EDIT: You'll want to regularly download these if you're trying to build a comprehensive record. The PDs I've been monitoring are only required to keep data for 30 days, so the CSVs are just a rolling window cut off at EXACTLY today minus 30 days.)

You can also do FOIA requests directly to departments, like this one: https://www.muckrock.com/foi/novato-296/flock-alprs-cameras-...

Good news is that even the images captured by the cameras is FOIA-able! https://www.404media.co/judge-rules-flock-surveillance-image...

JoeDohn 8 hours ago||
I'm honestly tired of all these knuckleheads. They've got a few bucks in their bank accounts and pretend that makes them smarter than everyone else. They're just gaming the system, nothing more, and they have every incentive to keep it alive.

He can shove his cameras deep in his ** as far as I'm concerned.

themafia 8 hours ago|
> They're just gaming the system

The "system" is not hapless or ignorant here. In fact, this company would not exist, if the "system" didn't have specific desires to effectively enslave the entire population.

Who wouldn't want to become a new age digital pharaoh? Wouldn't this be precisely the type of panopticon they would try to create?

IAmGraydon 2 hours ago|
This is how all authoritarians of the far right react when they are threatened. Take note - it means you're doing the right thing.
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