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Posted by cdrnsf 21 hours ago

I now assume that all ads on Apple news are scams(kirkville.com)
1033 points | 428 commentspage 7
wordsunite 17 hours ago|
This is one of the reasons I’m so glad Anthropic (at least for now) is positioning itself away from ads in chats as a monetization strategy. It was so nice to see a company shifting AWAY from the enshitification of products. I’m disheartened to see the recent stumbles by Apple, this Taboola association just seems so sketchy. It’s quite a jarring juxtaposition when you see those types of ads next to important stories. Even on other news sites. I just don’t get it. I mean, I get it from they “hey more money for shareholders” angle, but not from a “this is worth cheapening our brand, making our products worse and not caring about what users/customers actually want” angle.
bastard_op 14 hours ago||
I tried an iphone once about 6 years ago, but once I realized all browsers were essentially safari and there WAS NO ADBLOCKING, I was disgusted to emphatically go back to Android and Firefox with ublock plus. Apple is like the US government protecting pedophiles, but protecting adware and everything wrong with the internet, forcing people to be insecure and watch ads. I feel bad for apple users unable to use a clean ad-free internet.
einr 12 hours ago|
iOS has had support for ad blockers since 2015. I never ever see ads on iOS Safari and have not for many years.
hu3 4 hours ago||
What do you suggest I setup for my wife's iPhone?

And does it block ads on Apple News?

carleton 2 hours ago||
uBlock Origin Lite for Safari

To block ads on Apple News you need to block iadsdk.apple.com in DNS. E.g., NextDNS

antonyh 14 hours ago||
Apple News+ is so bad, it's literally unusable. Unfortunately I can't unsubscribe without paying MORE. I use all the other services on a family subscription except this one, but if I remove it the total cost goes up. I hate that I'm supporting something that is this bad, and the quantity of ads is the main factor - not only am I a paying customer, it's still filled with the worst kind of promoted 'content'.
hu3 14 hours ago|
> but if I remove it the total cost goes up.

That's because they know that in Apple News+ you are the product and their profit lowers if you block their ads by disabling the app.

antonyh 14 hours ago||
Then they are fools. I left a one-star review and uninstalled it.
otikik 18 hours ago||
I just want to use this space to say that I hate the fake AI-generated ripped tai-chi guy from the Youtube ads SO MUCH.
petr25102018 17 hours ago|
I am glad I am not the only one. Why do I see it like 50 times a day?
benrazdev 15 hours ago||
why does an RSS feed aggregator even need ads in the first place?
Finnucane 17 hours ago||
This suggests that there are online ads that are not scams. Who knew?
rrrx3 13 hours ago||
As a former adtech guy, as a general rule of thumb, I consider _all ads everywhere_ to be scams.

Apple using Taboola is so hysterical because of their claim to focus on user experience. Taboola ads are a chumbox of the absolute worst bullshit ads on the market. The only thing worse is the zergnet stuff.

timpera 20 hours ago||
Why would Apple enshittify their News app in this way when there are so many legitimate advertisers out there? It seems obviously damaging to their brand, so it makes no sense to me.
redserk 20 hours ago||
I unsubscribed from the News app subscription over their decision to bake in ads.

I own multiple personal Mac computers, an iPhone, an Apple Watch, iPad Pro, a few HomePods, and a few Apple TV devices. I’ve already proven that I’m willing to pay for a product even when there are cheaper alternatives. Why they decided to make News a paid subscription with ads — especially low-quality ads is beyond me.

I’ve gotten to the point where I’ve deleted the News, Stocks, and Weather apps, and will just remove any additional apps they decide to chuck in. It’s a real shame their aggressive pursuit of services revenue is destroying what is a great hardware ecosystem.

Forgeties79 20 hours ago||
What’s wrong with the weather and stocks apps? Maybe a silly question.
spudlyo 19 hours ago||
The stocks app is essentially Apple Business News, with stock prices on one side. I'm not entirely sure how the weather app pushes News on you, but my guess is that it's there somewhere.
aembleton 19 hours ago|||
I quite like the weather app on my laptop. Not seen any ads or news in it yet.
Forgeties79 19 hours ago|||
my stock app has the Apple business news towards the bottom where it’s pretty easy to ignore and I find it’s at least somewhat relevant, even if I don’t look at it. Even so, totally get it. I don’t really want ads there one way or another.

I don’t see ads on the weather app (at least on my phone)

Y-bar 19 hours ago|||
"Services Revenue must go up! If one ad network pays us 2% more use it!"

-- Tim "Apple" Cook (paraphrased)

Actual quote from a few days ago:

> “Services also achieved an all-time revenue record, up 14 percent from a year ago [...] a testament to incredible customer satisfaction for the very best products and services in the world.”

askl 20 hours ago|||
> legitimate advertisers

Those two words definitely don't belong together.

mrweasel 20 hours ago||
My local supermarket advertising on YouTube that they have a sale on coffee this week is pretty legitimate. It just doesn't buy the Alphabet shareholders a new yacht.

I truly don't believe that there is enough legitimate advertisers willing to buy ad space in Apple News (or elsewhere) to generate to profit Apple expects.

ACCount37 18 hours ago|||
There are enough legitimate advertisers willing to buy ad space in Apple News to generate ~70% of the profit Apple expects.

Scams, you see, make more profit per customer, and thus can afford to spend more on ads per customer. This creates an upward pressure on ad prices, on top of the extra ads sold.

This is why abuse prevention at major ad platforms is so consistently lackluster. They want to stop some scams, the most obvious and and the most illegal kind, so that they can say they tried - including to regulators, and to major companies that also buy ads from them and don't want their ads next to penis enlargement pills. But actually stopping all fraud and scams could cut into their profits in a meaningful way. So there's no hurry to build better ad quality control systems, not at all. Actively staying on top of ad fraud is paying more money to make less money.

Facebook is a major example of this kind of dynamic in action. They actually had internal estimates of how much it would cut their revenue to get rid of the majority of fraud, and were silly enough to put them in the writing.

matwood 19 hours ago|||
A lot of that has moved to IG, where you can just follow the stores you're interested in directly. This shift is likely another move that hurt the 'traditional' advertiser pool.
kotaKat 20 hours ago||
I’m kind of (un)surprised to see it just be Taboola’s slop from the ages past. I forgot Taboola even still pushes that garbage.
d--b 20 hours ago||
At this stage pretty much all ads on the internet are scams
FpUser 13 hours ago|
I used to have access to Apple II. This was about the only Apple I liked. After that my every encounter turned me off or whatever reasons
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