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Posted by lstoll 10 hours ago

An Update on Heroku(www.heroku.com)
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reactordev 3 hours ago|
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sebiw 9 hours ago||
> helping organizations build and deploy enterprise-grade AI in a secure and trusted way

> Enterprise Account contracts will no longer be offered to new customers

Seems contradictory or I just don't understand how they do product management.

My opinion: Heroku had its time but then stagnated heavily in keeping up with what was going on around it. With the rise of Container as a Service platforms there now were a multitude of more cost-efficient and flexible alternatives which were comparable to the service Heroku offered.

sc68cal 9 hours ago||
It's such a shame, because they had one of the best services out there. Being able to push via Git and end up with a running deployment was a killer feature. It may not have been the first (Elastic Beanstalk was way older but when it first came out it was Java only iirc, ick) but it was incredibly popular.

Seeing them now chasing AI as a "me too" after being acquired by Salesforce just shows that huge companies will acquire something then sit on it for years and let it rot.

sebiw 9 hours ago||
Yup, their Git Push Deployment was really a killer concept and a huge gateway for people just writing good apps not needing to care about infra and still being able to get a production-ready setup.
sm123 8 hours ago||
Couldn’t agree more. That “git push and you’re live” moment removed a huge amount of accidental complexity, and it’s been the guiding experience behind what we’re building at Build.io.
sealeck 1 hour ago||
Even when you build cool things it's respectful not to plant them in HN comments :)

I think the usual solution to this is to talk about cool stuff you've done that is only incidentally relevant to the product you're selling. For example, some detail on how you built a technical system or solved a problem, etc...

nightpool 9 hours ago||
Translation: We're going to reassign the engineers into Salesforce AI.
loloquwowndueo 6 hours ago|||
I thought if you were all in on AI you wouldn’t need engineers - just swarms of agents doing everything. :)
sebiw 9 hours ago|||
Huh, so that's what they mean when using the word "we". "We" is not Heroku, it's Salesforce.
awad 9 hours ago||
For those not as well-versed in corporate PR....Salesforce are going to do just the bare minimum to keep the service going until the revenue dries up (or some > 0 $$ threshold where it just doesn't financially make sense to keep it running).

Pour one out for Heroku as they were truly a revelation back in the day and one of the most magical experiences ever on first run.

nelsonfigueroa 9 hours ago||
The corporate speak is crazy. I think the update boils down to this sentence:

> Enterprise Account contracts will no longer be offered to new customers

jbm 5 hours ago|
Yeah I agree. I saw someone say that they were not in KTLO mode, but this seems pretty bad, especially considering it happening at Salesforce.
paxys 3 hours ago||
Why don't they just spin off the company or sell it? Heroku is a well-established brand (despite Salesforce's best efforts) and there are still plenty of customers and hobbyists relying on it today. Its value to the parent company is clearly 0. Give it away and let someone else have a run at it. Keep an ownership stake in case someone does manage to turn it around. Literally zero downside in it.
singularity2001 8 hours ago||
It's a bit surprising, one would have thought that with the event of accessible coding through agents, such site deployment sites would prosper.
sleight42 4 hours ago||
Exactly this. Missed opportunity.
hoherd 6 hours ago||
Didn't you read the last line of the announcement? They have enterprise AI dollars to chase! Salesforce wants some of them billions. Gotta make up for the 42% their stock price has dipped in the last 12 months.
bobbyiliev 5 hours ago||
I've been using DigitalOcean App Platform for a while now. It's not a 1:1 Heroku replacement, but the git-based deploys, managed DBs, and ability to move to Droplets later without a big migration have worked very well for me.
codegeek 4 hours ago||
I am considering DO App Platform for a new project. Would you be open to sharing any lessons learned ?
realkf 4 hours ago||
Yeah, I moved a while back to DO's App Platform. I've not had any issues with them so far. Recommend them a lot.
davepeck 4 hours ago||
Watching their public roadmap to see what happens. Right now, it looks about the same as it has for a while: useful new features and expected maintenance, moving along at a reasonable if not blistering clip.

https://github.com/orgs/heroku/projects/130

dluan 5 hours ago|
so EOL announcement without saying when it will be, but eventually.

we've been loyal heroku customers for over a decade. should have switched off long ago, but as a small team, it was too valuable. such a shame.

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