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Posted by lstoll 13 hours ago

An Update on Heroku(www.heroku.com)
314 points | 230 commentspage 5
xnx 12 hours ago|
Not at all surprising, but a real shame. Nothing that I know of has come close to the ease of the "Deploy to Heroku" button.
hakanensari 12 hours ago||
So they are going into maintenance mode?
PanMan 12 hours ago||
It really surprises me there isn’t a modern heroku alternative that supports the same.. things. Like build pipelines, routing included, multiple worker types. AWS is way less batteries included. And none of the competitors seems to offer the same kind of service, last time I looked.
culi 12 hours ago||
I think there's a couple decent alternatives out there: https://alternativeto.net/software/heroku/

There are also a lot of cool "self-hosted Heroku" alternatives

- Coolify (PHP) (2020) https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify

- Dokku (Go) (2013) https://github.com/dokku/dokku

- Dokploy (TypeScript) (2024) https://github.com/Dokploy/dokploy

- CapRover (TypeScript) (2017) https://github.com/caprover/caprover

- Komodo (Rust) (2022) https://github.com/moghtech/komodo

ezekg 12 hours ago|||
Literally nobody who seriously uses Heroku wants to self-host their own Heroku.
emilsedgh 11 hours ago|||
We had an enterprise account on Heroku. We invested a little in Dokku and moved to self host it as of a few months ago.

We now have a kubernetes (k3s) backed Dokku self hosted on Hetzner. Significantly cheaper but pretty robust.

Just saying that it's not literally, but you are right, most people wouldn't be interested in self hosting.

esseph 9 hours ago|||
What DO you want?
PanMan 11 hours ago|||
Thanks for the reply! Most of these (also on the alternativeto) are self-hosted, which is different from having heroku do it. Also most only support webservers, while the majority of our servers aren't web..
airsat18 8 hours ago||
northflank comes close
simonw 13 hours ago||
I wonder how much money Salesforce would need to sell what's left of Heroku to a better steward.
petcat 12 hours ago|||
My understanding is that Heroku is just an AWS reseller. I don't know if there's a lot of value in a PaaS piggy-backing on another PaaS anymore. Especially for Salesforce.
simonw 10 hours ago|||
There's a ton of value right now in the existing customers. None of them want to put effort into migrating away from Heroku if they can avoid it.
Trasmatta 11 hours ago|||
I don't see AWS as a PaaS at all. Heroku's selling point has always been how it makes everything way easier.
wqtz 6 hours ago||
It would be impossible to buy a company as a steward. We worked with them. In the early 2020s, their teams were as lazy as IBM boomers. Happy to hop on a call, but let's do an rain check or whatever and come back to you after 17 weeks to say no in an email CCed with 42 people playing hot potato between commercial people who try their best to sound technical. You need a mind map to know which person you were talking to and who introduced you to them.

My money is on holding companies like IAC buying the brand first through financial engineering and restructuring finances initially. They would load it up with debt like they did with the sporting goods store in Sopranos.

Afterward, they would sell it to a Euro-based caretaking company like Bending Spoons, with a focus on maintenance engineering rather than innovation engineering.

diqi 6 hours ago||
What does this even say?
wxw 6 hours ago||
> Heroku is transitioning to a sustaining engineering model

sustaining == maintanence mode

krashidov 6 hours ago||
Spinning up temporary VMs/stateful machines is going to be super valuable in the next year or 2. Heroku not jumping on this just shows the state of Salesforce. Absolutely inept. I foresee slack going down a similar path of enshittification
pimeys 6 hours ago|
Thanks for reminding me that slack is owned by Salesforce. What are we going to use when slack turns to shit, IRC again maybe?
krashidov 5 hours ago||
type.com (full disclosure I am one of the cofounders)
mplewis 4 hours ago||
You gotta fix the home page. I'm not sitting through a movie trailer to find out how your chat app works.
krashidov 3 hours ago||
haha we actually launched it today. Point taken though! It's not a video though just an interactive widget. Instead of scrolling you press enter. Once we launch I'm sure we'll have something more traditional
easton 12 hours ago||
I just got some Heroku socks like two months ago at an event, they must've killed it at the start of the year. Weird.
cruffle_duffle 3 hours ago||
All I’m going to say is if your press release is titled “an update on heroku” instead if something exciting it means you aren’t delivering happy news that is good for the user.

I bet I’m right. Haven’t read the article or comments, I’m just posting this comment to see if I’m proven right or wrong.

uxcolumbo 8 hours ago|
What are some good alternatives?

Anyone any experience with https://sevalla.com/ ?

lpellis 8 hours ago||
I've been very happy with https://render.com/ , seems the closest to what heroku was
cssanchez 8 hours ago|||
Dokku. The self hosted alternative.
brightball 7 hours ago||
Fly.io is incredible.
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