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Posted by chwtutha 1 day ago

Vouch(github.com)
https://x.com/mitchellh/status/2020252149117313349

https://nitter.net/mitchellh/status/2020252149117313349

https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/pull/10559

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enterprisetalk 1 day ago|
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fcantournet 13 hours ago||
This looks like a fairly typical engineer's solution to a complex social problem: it doesn't really solve the problem, introduces other issues / is gameable, yet unlikely to create problems for the creator. Of course creator answers any criticism of the solution with "Well make something better". That's not the point: this is most likely net negative, at least that is the (imo well supported) opinion of critics. If the cons outway the pros, then doing nothing is better than this.
dang 8 hours ago||
"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

wayeq 12 hours ago|||
did you have any actual criticism?
Bayko 11 hours ago||
cons to YOU outway the pros. pros to HIM outway the cons.
Verlyn139 10 hours ago||
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returnInfinity 1 day ago||
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zenoware 19 hours ago||
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WhereIsTheTruth 17 hours ago||
Replacing merit with social signaling.. ..sigh..

The enshitification of GitHub continues

BiteCode_dev 18 hours ago||
Illegal in europe. You are bot allowed to keep a black list of people with the exception of some criminal situations or addiction.
jen20 17 hours ago|
Can you cite the law that says you may not do this?

There are obvious cases in Europe (well, were if you mean the EU) where there need not be criminal behaviour to maintain a list of people that no landlord in a town will allow into their pubs, for example.

BiteCode_dev 16 hours ago||
Under the EU’s GDPR, any processing of personal data (name, contact, identifiers, etc.) generally requires a legal basis (e.g., consent, legitimate interest, contractual necessity), clear purpose, minimal data, and appropriate protection. Doing so without a lawful basis is unlawful.

It is not a cookie banner law. The american seems to keep forgetting that it's about personal data, consent, and the ability to take it down. The sharing of said data is particularly restricted.

And of course, this applies to black list, including for fraud.

Regulators have enforced this in practice. For example in the Netherlands, the tax authority was fined for operating a “fraud blacklist” without a statutory basis, i.e., illegal processing under GDPR: https://www.autoriteitpersoonsgegevens.nl/en/current/tax-adm...

The fact is many such lists exist without being punished. Your landlord list for example. That doesn't make it legal, just no shutdown yet.

Because there is no legal basis for it, unless people have committed, again, an illegal act (such as destroying the pub property). Also it's quite difficult to have people accept to be on a black list. And once they are, they can ask for their data to be taken down, which you cannot refuse.

jen20 15 hours ago||
> The american seems to keep forgetting that it's about personal data, consent, and the ability to take it down.

I am European, nice try though.

It is very unclear that this example falls foul of GDPR. On this basis, Git _itself_ fails at that, and no reasonable court will find it to be the case.

archagon 20 hours ago||
However good (or bad) this idea may be, you are shooting yourself in the foot by announcing it on Twitter. Half the devs I know won’t touch that site with a ten foot pole.
rcakebread 18 hours ago|
Who trusts people who still use X?
jimmaswell 18 hours ago||
I still prefer it to Wayland for various reasons, and I don't think Wayland would work properly on my mid 2010 Macbook anyway.
dedzycide 15 hours ago||
i believe he is talking about Twitter(X) and not x11. so a political stance from the x.com in the description. i love running x11 too, wayland is still not there yet sadly, still has a few quirks.

if not mistaken x11 is what mitchell is running rightn ow https://github.com/mitchellh/nixos-config/blob/0c42252d8951a...

archagon 9 hours ago||
Exactly. Poor judgement on the author’s part.