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Posted by chwtutha 1 day ago

Vouch(github.com)
https://x.com/mitchellh/status/2020252149117313349

https://nitter.net/mitchellh/status/2020252149117313349

https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/pull/10559

687 points | 301 commentspage 5
sebastianconcpt 7 hours ago|
https://www.lewissociety.org/innerring/
nabilsaikaly 8 hours ago||
I believe interviewing devs before allowing them to contribute is a good strategy for the upcoming years. Let’s treat future OS contributors the same way companies/startups do when they want to hire new devs.
tedk-42 8 hours ago|
This adds friction, disincentivizes legitimate and high quality code commits and uses humans even more.
otterley 8 hours ago||
The entire point is to add friction. Accepting code into public projects used to be highly frictive. RMS and Linus Torvalds weren't just accepting anyone's code when they developed GNU and Linux; and to even be considered, you had to submit patches in the right way to a mailing list. And you had to write the code yourself!

GitHub and LLMs have reduced the friction to the point where it's overwhelming human reviewers. Removing that friction would be nice if it didn't cause problems of its own. It turns out that friction had some useful benefits, and that's why you're seeing the pendulum swing the other way.

gdiamos 4 hours ago||
I feel like a lot of software engineering problems come out of people who refuse to talk to each other than through comments in VCS.

It makes sense if you are collaborating over IRC, but I feel the need to face palm when people sitting next to each other do it.

What is your preferred way to talk to your team?

No English, only code

Slack

Zoom

In a meeting room

Over lunch

On a walk

One thing I’ve learned over time is that the highest bandwidth way of talking is face to face because you can read body language in addition to words. Video chat is okay, but an artificial and often overly formal setting. Phone is faster than text. Text drops the audio/visual/emotional signal completely. Code is precise but requires reverse engineering intent.

I personally like a walk, and then pair programming a shared screen.

p4cmanus3r 5 hours ago||
I love the idea, but it's going to be cancelled for sure.
canada_dry 1 day ago||
An interesting approach to the worsening signal-to-noise ratio OSS projects are experiencing.

However, it's not hard to envision a future where the exact opposite will be occur: a few key AI tools/models will become specialized and better at coding/testing in various platforms than humans and they will ignore or de-prioritize our input.

vips7L 11 hours ago||
Love seeing some nushell usage!
throwaway020826 4 hours ago||
> vouch denounce badactor [--reason str]

Simple as. He who is without sin can cast the first stone.

cedws 1 day ago||
I think this project is motivated by the same concern I have that open source (particularly on GitHub) is going to devolve into a slop fest as the barrier of entry lowers due to LLMs. For every principled developer who takes personal responsibility for what they ship, regardless of whether it was LLM-generated, there are people 10 others that don't care and will pollute the public domain with broken, low quality projects. In other words, I foresee open source devolving from a high trust society to a low one.
larodi 7 hours ago|
After the economy of attention, no things enter the economy of trust.
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