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Posted by meetpateltech 1 day ago

Ex-GitHub CEO launches a new developer platform for AI agents(entire.io)
565 points | 534 commentspage 11
ajbajb 19 hours ago|
I did test it and use it and trashed it because there is very little value, actually none for me. These problems are easily being solved in other ways whoever has any experience with these tools. Getting $60M round for this stuff is ridiculous.
AIorNot 20 hours ago||
so github ci/cd agents rebranded as a startup? same team different company.
aftergibson 20 hours ago||
Christ, a $60m seed round.

The AI fatigue is real, and the cooling-off period is going to hurt. We’re deep into concept overload now. Every week it’s another tool (don’t get me started on Gas Town) confidently claiming to solve… something. “Faster development”, apparently.

Unless you’re already ideologically committed to this space, I don’t see how the average engineer has the energy or motivation to even understand these tools, never mind meaningfully compare them. That’s before you factor in that many of them actively remove the parts of engineering people enjoy, while piling on yet another layer of abstraction, configuration, and cognitive load.

I’m so tired of being told we’re in yet another “paradigm shift”. Tools like Codex can be useful in small doses, but the moment it turns into a sprawling ecosystem of prompts, agents, workflows, and magical thinking, it stops feeling like leverage and starts feeling like self-inflicted complexity.

ergocoder 19 hours ago||
It's an ex-CEO of Github. He can raise $60m on any idea.
combyn8tor 20 hours ago|||
> I don’t see how the average engineer has the energy or motivation to even understand these tools, never mind meaningfully compare them

This is why I use the copilot extension in VS code. They seem to just copy whatever useful thing climbs to the surface of the AI tool slop pile. Last week I loaded up and Opus 4.6 was there ready to use. Yesterday I found it has a new Claude tool built in which I used to do some refactoring... it worked fine. It's like having an AI tool curator.

ttoinou 20 hours ago|||
Maybe just learning 1 or 2 of such tools is enough ?
aftergibson 20 hours ago|||
Probably, but which ones, do we get to a place where you have X years experience in Gastown development, but I only have Y years experience in Entire.

I also keep getting job applications for AI-native 'developers' whatever that means.

ttoinou 20 hours ago||
You will learn a lot about the underlying LLM / technology whichever tool you use though
ReptileMan 20 hours ago|||
History has shown that by delaying learning the next greatest tech, you may avoid learning it altogether.
aspenmartin 20 hours ago||
Your point about the overwhelming proliferation of AI tools and not knowing which are worth any attention and which are trash is very true I feel that a lot today (my solution is basically to just lean into one or two and ask for recommendations on other tools with mixed success).

The “I’m so tired of being told we’re in another paradigm shift” comments are widely heard and upvoted on HN and are just so hard to comprehend today. They are not seeing the writing on the wall and following where the ball is going to be even in 6-12 months. We have scaling laws, multiple METR benchmarks, internal and external evals of a variety of flavors.

“Tools like codex can be useful in small doses” the best and most prestigious engineers I know inside and outside my company do not code virtually at all. I’m not one of them but I also do not code at all whatsoever. Agents are sufficiently powerful to justify and explain themselves and walk you through as much of the code as you want them to.

aftergibson 19 hours ago||
Yeah, I’m not disputing that AI-assisted engineering is a real shift. It obviously is.

My issue is that we’ve now got a million secondary “paradigm shifts” layered on top: agent frameworks, orchestration patterns, prompt DSLs, eval harnesses, routing, memory, tool calling, “autonomous” workflows… all presented like you’re behind if you’re not constantly replatforming your brain.

Even if the end-state is “engineers code less”, the near-term reality for most engineers is still: deliver software, support customers, handle incidents, and now also become competent evaluators of rapidly changing bot stacks. That cognitive tax is brutal.

So yes, follow where the ball is going. I am. I’m just not pretending the current proliferation is anything other than noisy and expensive to keep up with.

codegeek 1 day ago||
"$60M Seed round"

I guess when you are Ex-Github CEO, it is that easy raising a $60M seed. I wonder what the record for a seed round is. This is crazy.

dcchambers 1 day ago||
Really struggling to figure out what this is at a glance. Buried in the text is this line which I think is the tl;dr:

"As a result, every change can now be traced back not only to a diff, but to the reasoning that produced it."

This is a good idea, but I just don't see how you build an entire platform around this. This feels like a feature that should be added to GitHub. Something to see in the existing PR workflow. Why do I want to go to a separate developer platform to look at this information?

chasd00 21 hours ago||
I'm sure i'm missing something but can you not ask the llm to add the reasoning behind the commit in the comments as part of the general llm instructions?
esafak 22 hours ago||
Github sucks now, for one; people are looking for an alternative.
dcchambers 21 hours ago||
This is not an alternative to GitHub though. The code for this tool itself lives on GitHub!

https://github.com/entireio

dvfjsdhgfv 21 hours ago||
I thought something got seriously wrong with Nat Friedman but fortunately it's another one.
LeoNatan25 21 hours ago||
Grifters to the grift god
asim 1 day ago||
Oh man I'm tired. This reminds me of the docker era. It's all moving fast. Everyone's raising money. And 24 months from now it's all consolidating. It's all a nice hype game when you raise the funding but the execution depends on people finding value in your products and tools. I would argue yes many of these things are useful but I'd also argue there's far too much overlap, too many unknowns and too many people trying to reinvent the whole process. And just like the container era I think we're going to see a real race to zero. Where most of the dev tools get open sourced and only a handful of product companies survive, if that. I want to wish everyone the best of luck because I myself have raised money and spent countless years building Dev tools. This is no easy task especially as the landscape is changing. I just think when you raise $60m and announce a cli. You're already dead, you just don't know it. I'm sorry.
yomismoaqui 1 day ago||
Let the cambrian explosion run its course but let's hope the meteorite doesn't kill us all.
giancarlostoro 1 day ago|||
I see the value since I built a similar tool different approach. Then there's Beads, which is what inspired my project, with some tens of thousands of developers using it or more now? I'm not sure how they figure how many users they have.

In my case I don't want my tools to assume git, my tools should work whether I open SVN, TFS, Git, or a zip file. It should also sync back into my 'human' tooling, which is what I do currently. Still working on it, but its also free, just like Beads.

eddythompson80 1 day ago|||
I wouldn't wanna be in the rat race myself, but I know people who salivate at the opportunity to create some popular dev tool to get acquired by MS, Google or Amazon or whichever of the big tech companies that decide this could work well in their cloud ecosystem.
lopsidedfolly 21 hours ago||
HNites are hilarious.

On the one hand they think these things provide 1337x productivity gains, can be run autonomously, and will one day lead to "the first 1 person billion dollar company".

And in complete cognitive dissonance also somehow still have fantasies of future 'acquisition' by their oppressors.

Why acquire your trash dev tool?

They'll just have the agents copy it. Hell, you could even outright steal it, because apparently laundering any licensing issues through LLMs short circuits the brains of judges to protohuman clacking rocks together levels.

eddythompson80 16 hours ago||
I think there are 2 parts here. That persona you’re describing (startup cofounder or engineer being paid mostly in equity) is a good subset of the people here. If I had to pull a number out of my shiny metal ass, I’d say it’s 30%. Those people both loath big tech, and dream of the day they are acquired by it. It’s not really the contradiction you think it’s. Another 45% of people here are tech-savvy Reddit refuges who say Reddit things.

As to why would those company acquire a startup instead of having an agent generate it for them. Why has big tech ever acquired tech startups when they could have always funded it in house? It’s not always a technical answer. Sometimes it’s internal Political fights, time to market, reduce competition, PR reasons or they just wanna hire the founder to lead a team for that internally and the only way he’ll agree is if there is an exit plan for his employees. I sat in “acquire or build” discussions before. The “how hard would it be to just do that?” Was just one of many inputs into the discussion. Ever wondered why big big companies acquire a smaller one, not invest in it, then shut it down few years later?

dipree 1 day ago||
What if it's just the beginning of something bigger?
yifanl 1 day ago|||
What if the earth exploded tomorrow? Who cares about what if.
giancarlostoro 1 day ago|||
With 60 million you could have waited for a bigger announcement? There's "AI fatigue" among the target market for these sorts of tools, advertising unfinished products will take its toll on you later.
lysace 21 hours ago||
List of Github CEOs:

1. Tom Preston-Werner (Co-founder). 2008 – 2014 (Out for, eh... look it up)

2. Chris Wanstrath (Co-founder). 2014 – 2018

(2018: Acquisition by Microsoft: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17227286)

3. Nat Friedman (Gnome/Ximian/Microsoft). 2018 – 2021

4. Thomas Dohmke (Founder of HockeyApp, some A/B testing thing, acquired by Microsoft in 2014). 2021 - 2025

There is no Github CEO now, it's just a team/org in Microsoft. (https://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/)

ashtom 18 hours ago|
Chris was also CEO from 2008 to 2012. Tom had 2012 to 2014.

Nat's company Xamarin was acquired by Microsoft in 2016.

HockeyApp wasn't A/B testing, but a platform for iPhone, Mac, Android, and Windows Phone developers to distribute their beta version (like what TestFlight is today to the App Store), collect crash reports (like what Sentry is today), user feedback, and basic analytics for developers.

lysace 18 hours ago||
Thanks for the fact check :).

The Ximian thing I wrote from obviously faulty memory (I now wonder if it was influenced by early 2000s Miguel's bonobo obsession), the rest from various google searches. Should have gone deeper.

lysace 17 hours ago||
No, I was actually correct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ximian

Ximian, Inc. (previously called Helix Code and originally named International Gnome Support) was an American company that developed, sold and supported application software for Linux and Unix based on the GNOME platform. It was founded by Miguel de Icaza and Nat Friedman in 1999 and was bought by Novell in 2003

...

Novell was in turn acquired by The Attachmate Group on 27 April 2011. In May 2011 The Attachmate Group laid off all its US staff working on Mono, which included De Icaza. He and Friedman then founded Xamarin on 16 May 2011, a new company to continue the development of Mono. On 24 February 2016, Microsoft announced that they had signed an agreement to acquire Xamarin.

ashtom 11 hours ago||
Didn't say you were wrong. It was just missing the Xamarin step in the sequence of companies, and arguably Xamarin was the bigger milestone than Ximian.
stack_framer 1 day ago|
We went from having new JavaScript frameworks every week to having new AI frameworks every week. I'm thinking I should build a HN clone that filters out all posts about AI topics...
bonesss 23 hours ago||
Looking at the most popular agent skills, heavily geared towards react and JS, I think a lot of the most breathless reports of LLM success are weighted towards the same group of fashion-dependant JavaScript developers.

The same very online group endlessly hyping messy techs and frontend JS frameworks, oblivious to the Facebook and Google sized mechanics driving said frameworks, are now 100x-ing themselves with things like “specs” and “tests” and dreaming big about type systems and compilers we’ve had for decades.

I don’t wanna say this cycle is us watching Node jockies discover systems programming in slow motion through LLMs, but it feels like that sometimes.

daliusd 1 day ago|||
Create extension that does that. AI can do that for you in 10 minutes
cyanydeez 20 hours ago|||
Or, you could perform a public service by creating a HN clone only for bots and try to convince the bots trolling here to go there.
vintermann 21 hours ago|||
You know the only effective way to do that, right?
cobolexpert 18 hours ago|||
Yep exactly, a Perl script
malfist 20 hours ago|||
Claude create a clone of Hacker News, no mistakes. Must compile.
cyanydeez 20 hours ago||
Just give me your bank account, claude API, Mother's maiden name, your zip code, your 3 digit security code, and anything else you think I might need to live as malfist the magnificant. Can I call you that?
jahsome 1 day ago|||
I've long wished for a 'filter' feature for the hn feed -- namely the old trend of web3 slop -- but with little else than keywords to filter, it would likely be tedious and inaccurate. Ironically, I think with AI/LLMs it could be a little easier to analyze.
chasd00 21 hours ago|||
one technique i've found useful is i don't click on the link if i'm not interested.
jtokoph 1 day ago|||
It’s one reason I hoped lobste.rs had taken off. All posts are tagged and you can filter out by tag.
bitwize 1 day ago||
This is how software is being written now. What you propose is like joining a forum called "Small-Scale Manufacturing News" and filtering out all 3D-printing articles.
LtWorf 23 hours ago||
We want to filter out the irrelevant software :)
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