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Posted by lehi 7 hours ago

Google handed ICE student journalist's bank and credit card numbers(theintercept.com)
531 points | 185 commentspage 2
lasgawe 6 hours ago|
I remember someone saying that there is no privacy in large companies because they make money by selling or sharing users' personal data :/
JohnTHaller 6 hours ago||
Biggest thing to note is that this was a so-called "administrative" warrant, not a real judicial warrant. Google did this voluntary.
philipallstar 3 hours ago|
They're both real.
tamimio 3 hours ago||
> on tech companies to resist similar subpoenas in the future from DHS without court intervention.

Haha nice one, these tech companies are willing to have a deal with devil to get those lucrative Gov contracts, and since it’s the the wild west now in the US, the only action users can do is abandoning all these tech companies and look for alternatives.

shevy-java 5 hours ago||
Big capital is presently running the USA. Democracy no longer exists there as a factual entity - whether it is ICE agents gunning down US citizens or whether it is corporations run by the superrich spying on people and undermining their ability to e. g. protest.

There is too much a focus on Trump here - one should focus on the whole criminal entity. The whole network. It is true that the fish starts to rot from the head (well, not quite, but it is a common saying), but in reality there are numerous parts that are rotting away.

IMO there has to be a re-distribution of both wealth and power; as well as influence.

RickJWagner 6 hours ago||
When I was a student, I could never have gone to such lengths to avoid government scrutiny.

He must have plenty of money.

yomansat 42 minutes ago||
What's the insinuation here? He has willpower towards injustice.
hsuduebc2 6 hours ago||
Just out of curiosity. Are there any companies today that are seen the way Google used to be seen, as a generally “good” corporation/companies that are also a important player? Maybe Mozilla Foundation?
jeffbee 6 minutes ago||
By the way, perhaps your point of view on Google has evolved but on the question of the way Google is seen today by American consumers it is still right up there with Kleenex and Jesus. Furthermore, pretty much everyone, in America and abroad, views business as both more ethical and more effective than governments and non-governmental organizations.
rchaud 4 hours ago|||
There are no good mega-corporations, only a honeymoon period where they haven't grown large enough to start horse-trading for favorable treatment from the state.
InitialLastName 6 hours ago|||
Anthropic seems to be chasing that angle (c.f. their run of "AI that doesn't advertise to you" commercials).
skeptic_ai 5 hours ago|||
Come back in 2-3 years. I bet will be one of the worst if still around
nickthegreek 6 hours ago|||
They have contracts with Palantir.
InitialLastName 6 hours ago||
GP's question was about perception, not reality.
agilob 6 hours ago|||
Blizzard, Microsoft come to mind
passwordoops 6 hours ago|||
How far back do you have to go for Microsoft to be seen as "good" the way Google was?
agilob 6 hours ago||
Windows XP for me
cess11 6 hours ago||
.NET and VS Code gave some people the impression that MICROS~1 had become good and nice.
govideo 6 hours ago||||
yep re blizzard. they've gotten lots better since the msft acquisition, based on my (limited) experiences with the newer employees there.
AlexandrB 6 hours ago||||
Blizzard ~10 years ago, maybe. Microslop has always been one of the worst. I don't understand why anyone would have a positive disposition towards Microslop.
saubeidl 6 hours ago|||
Blizzard is a bunch of sex pests and Microsoft is the guys with the AI upsells on every inch of their OS...
agilob 6 hours ago||
Wasn't Blizzard pretty alright back when Diablo 2 was released? and then LoD?
SlightlyLeftPad 6 hours ago||
All that was Blizzard North honestly. So it depended on locality.
AlexandrB 6 hours ago|||
Maybe Valve?
SlightlyLeftPad 6 hours ago|||
Agreed. Nvidia too maybe? That said, Nvidia is highly competitive and has built a walled garden via their software so I have mixed feelings.
moogly 6 hours ago|||
Degenerate gambling company.
skeptic_ai 5 hours ago|||
Maybe proton, but even that… is not great.
jeffbee 4 hours ago||
There are exactly zero organizations that will refuse to comply with subpoenas and warrants. It isn't up to business to fix the national government.
juliusceasar 6 hours ago||
Look how far they'll go to protect Israel. But when it comes to Epstein friends and co, they need evidence to proof that water is wet..
lingrush4 6 hours ago||
Google ought to rethink its policy of disclosing government subpoenas to users. Every time this happens, the media uses it to attack Google. They'd be better off leaving users in the dark about these legally required data disclosures. Even if most users don't go crying to the media when it happens, it's still not worth it.
Hizonner 3 hours ago||
Ever occur to you that it's good for Google if there's some public visibility of what Google is being forced to do?
jajuuka 4 hours ago||
Ultimately it's better for the public and users to be informed about this occurring though. If Google wanted to they could salvage it and explain their legal duties and how that applies to these situations. I don't think Google is worried though. They have multiple captive markets and have seen continued growth so it's obviously not affecting the bottom line.

It's a good contrast to Apple where any bit of bad news that makes headlines becomes priority one to fix. Which just creates a privileged class of users and makes the brand look fragile.

AlexandrB 6 hours ago||
Why the hell did Google even have his bank account numbers? I wish there was more information on which Google service(s) this data was pulled from.
ceejayoz 6 hours ago|
You can setup ACH for a number of Google services; Cloud, Workspace, the Play Store.
diego_moita 6 hours ago|
Does anyone still remember when Western countries were scared of Huawei because the Chinese would use their hardware to spy on people?

Well, guess what? The U.S. also has their own Huawei. But, at least, they're "democratic" and follow "the rule of the law" (for whatever these words mean nowadays).

daveidol 6 hours ago||
Didn’t we all learn this with the Snowden files? Nothing new unfortunately
jacquesm 5 hours ago||
Both are wrong.
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