Google handed ICE student journalist's bank and credit card numbers

Posted by lehi 10 hours ago

Google handed ICE student journalist's bank and credit card numbers(theintercept.com)

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FpUser 8 hours ago|

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837263292029 10 hours ago||

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juliusceasar 10 hours ago||

Look how far they'll go to protect Israel. But when it comes to Epstein friends and co, they need evidence to proof that water is wet..

rvz 10 hours ago||

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NetOpWibby 10 hours ago||

I stopped using Google at least a decade ago.

Boom, gotcha.

JohnMakin 10 hours ago|||

These kind of condescending comments are a bit much, especially when not everyone has the luxury or know-how to deFAANG their lives. For instance, whether or not (I) personally want to avoid it, I use some of this for actual work, and there is no alternative. Comments like this seem to imply then I have no right to complain about it, which is frankly ridiculous - there is a world where FAANGs can exist without being far reaching apparatuses of an authoritarian regime. They do so because it is convenient and the existing power structure incentivizes it.

Like what am I gonna do in a job interview - "Oh, you guys use gsuite? Sorry, I deFAANGed."

Come on.

skrtskrt 8 hours ago|||

We're on the forum where people are most capable of doing this for themselves.

And if your company uses GMail that is less than ideal for de-Googling, but it does not meaningfully impact the benefits of de-Googling your personal life.

Refusing to run all your search history, personal transactions, and correspondences through one of the fascist state's pet companies is still beneficial.

JohnMakin 7 hours ago||

If you use a work google profile on your home network, tied to your real name, it definitely affects your personal life

throwway120385 9 hours ago|||

It's almost like there should be some third party that represents people who could regulate companies like Google and prevent them from becoming too big. Maybe there are some examples from US history where some such third party existed.

barbazoo 10 hours ago||

> So when are you going to stop using Google? (Never)

Why the meta commentary? Obviously some of us have unFANGed their lives.

RickJWagner 9 hours ago||

When I was a student, I could never have gone to such lengths to avoid government scrutiny.

He must have plenty of money.

yomansat 4 hours ago||

What's the insinuation here? He has willpower towards injustice.

LightBug1 6 hours ago||

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mike_bob 9 hours ago||

Remember "Don't be evil"? It's crazy anyone would trust a corporation with anything these days.

tjwebbnorfolk 9 hours ago|

It's crazy that "corporations = bad" passes as insightful comment on HN these days.

Upvoter33 9 hours ago|||

I don't think it's as simple as "corps. = bad". It's more that naive slogans like "don't be evil" used to be taken seriously. Companies exist to make money. This is ok! It generally works well in a capitalistic system. But to expect more than that people are realizing is a pipe dream... which is why you need good rules in place (i.e., regulations, laws) to direct companies and their behaviors.

pedroma 5 hours ago||||

I don't know why I still lurk on what is essentially r/politicsandtech.

FrankBooth 9 hours ago|||

Not really. HN had its Eternal September moment years ago.

shevy-java 9 hours ago||

Big capital is presently running the USA. Democracy no longer exists there as a factual entity - whether it is ICE agents gunning down US citizens or whether it is corporations run by the superrich spying on people and undermining their ability to e. g. protest.

There is too much a focus on Trump here - one should focus on the whole criminal entity. The whole network. It is true that the fish starts to rot from the head (well, not quite, but it is a common saying), but in reality there are numerous parts that are rotting away.

IMO there has to be a re-distribution of both wealth and power; as well as influence.

bovermyer 10 hours ago||

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hsuduebc2 10 hours ago|

I would say that it's just ordinary greed driven company. Which is basically normal corporation.

Why net negative tho?

bovermyer 9 hours ago||

The "net" refers here to "the good that Google does" (e.g., some pretty impressive networking research) is outweighed by "the bad that Google does," such as the linked article.

Nothing is pure evil or pure good. Gauging where on the scale a person or group lies is really hard, and subjective.

So, I try and keep score on the big players, but understand that my judgement is fallible.

hsuduebc2 7 hours ago||

Oh I understand what you meant by net negative, I was more curious about the thing's you perceive negatively. I myself consider them net neutral but the trend itself is negative.

xnx 10 hours ago|

Ragebait article. Headline should be "Google complies with court order"

wffurr 10 hours ago||

Not actually a court order. That's the problem. Administrative subpoenas don't come from a judge, and the target wasn't given notice in order to challenge it in court.

JohnTHaller 9 hours ago||

No courts were involved