Posted by DavidFerris 1 day ago
As a mechanical engineer, I feel the part of my job is safe from AI for the time being. I don't think quality training data for good mechanical design exists.
3D CAD is only part of good design. To a tinker-er that is 3D printing simple parts, an STL is fine. But most parts that matter require far more design consideration and detail than simply the geometry data that an STL (or other 3D file) provides.
The majority of parts are accompanied with a drawing, and that is where the real design actually is found: Tolerances, GD&T, materials, processing notes...
Even then, most of the calculations and considerations to build the model and drawing are not explicit in the design documents: Nothing about a drawing of a stainless steel part tells you WHY it must be a stainless steel part. I don't think there is a large set of well documented designs out there to act as training data for an AI system to design an assembly beyond basic 3D parts.
The authors identify this gap, but it's a fundamental problem with the wholesale move to AI in mechanical design.
one of the challenges to making a good data set might be around bad designs and why they failed. if we get to a mechanical agent, its going to need to understand that brass was a mistake and redesign a part as steel and change the design for the new contraints
unlike code, that kind of train of experiment i think will be a lot more expensive to make, since you might actually want to create those parts along the way and not just pretend
That said, I am excited for AI assisted CAD tools. Things like creating and applying global variables to an existing part, complex assembly analysis for part reduction or just making a starting base part can be incredibly tedious and are low hanging fruit for improving CAD workflows with AI imo.
I really only wanted one hole in my box though, so I adjusted the query to "box with a single hole in it". the results looked indentical. except for one that stood out. I would link to the particular model, but there was no way to do that. this model appears to be a rectangular bathroom basin, on its side. I'd describe it as perhaps a ~currently fashionable porcelain design, but it could be a concrete 'getting shit done' sink, or a model from The Sims (the first one). so box-like perhaps, but not many people would describe it as a box. I guess my search continues (elsewhere)...
(actually interesting bit about natural language: I know that a box with two (or more) holes in it has a single hole in it, but most English natural language parsers (humans) will notice that specifying 'single' would be redundant if I wanted any number more than zero, so it's extremely unlikely that I was looking for a multi-hole box.)
where did you steal the models from, by the way? just curious. the original context in which they were found would actually be helpful if someone was for some reason trying to actually use this as a tool. [ed: saw the OP's comment down the page -- you can include a comment with the submission IIRC]
also if you don't have the 3D model spinning incessantly, having the page open won't be obnoxious and it won't (have to) waste power
Open-sourced dataset: https://huggingface.co/datasets/daveferbear/3d-model-images-...
Blog writeup: https://www.finalrev.com/blog/embedding-one-million-3d-model...
For example if I search “supercolumns” I get regular household furniture.
The generality of the part descriptions made me chuckle.
> A bevel gear with a circular base and a series of angular, tapered teeth extending radially outward. The teeth are uniformly distributed around the circumference, allowing for meshing at an angle with another gear. The gear's face includes a set of holes, varying in size and symmetrically arranged around the central bore, likely for weight reduction or mounting purposes. The central opening likely acts as an axle or shaft attachment point. The design facilitates the transmission of rotational motion between intersecting shafts, typically at a 90-degree angle.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41hGjsBlrKL._AC_SL1000_....
I tried Google/Claude etc. But none worked. As per Claude, the technical name for that is Pillow Block Bearing/Shaft Coupling Block/Flange Mount Bracket. Funny thing is, your app didn't return any good result when I search with any of those terms.
After reading your blog post, I searched for "block with 2 holes". And lo and behold, it returned ABC-00162357!
Couple of suggestions: 1) Have a permanent link for each model 2) Show related models when a model is clicked 3) and lastly, show models based on an image
edit: Search for "mounting block" returned ABC-00180735 which is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much for making this!
I hope you make it a real site as I noticed usually these vercel apps go offline after few months.
My go-to for CAD files is usually https://grabcad.com/library
I searched this for "WAGO" and "XT90", so I guess not the same use case. Some hits for "Raspberry Pi", though.
From the blog post: Our search demo proves that it works quite well. As anticipated, text search works well, returning sensible results for even irregular or poorly formed queries. It’s worth mentioning that this is very different from 3D part libraries like Thingiverse or GrabCAD. Search in those repositories requires users to tag or annotate parts with a description, the text of which is used in search. Our system takes only an unnamed part as input, requiring no additional labelling.
I guess my interest was more piqued by the "CAD" part.
