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Posted by edward 17 hours ago

Officials Claim Drone Incursion Led to Shutdown of El Paso Airport(www.nytimes.com)
Latest archive link: https://archive.is/Qdq4x
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Havoc 14 hours ago|
My money is on misplaced black budget project craft

Maybe that new F-47 did a trump and fell asleep somewhere in the desert

dathinab 13 hours ago||
But they didn't block the desert, only air zone and also only directly above the city not beyond it.
cucumber3732842 13 hours ago||
That's kind of what I'm thinking too though my money would be on something like "super secret stealth cruise missile ripped off it's mounting pylon" or control software went crazy rather than an airframe loss.

It's likely be something small enough and with little/no fuel because if it left a big smoking hole they'd find it quick. And it's gotta be something with fairly questionable aerodynamic properties (i.e. damaged) or questionable guidance (i.e not an inadvertently released bomb) otherwise they'd have a very good idea of where it landed.

nnnnico 13 hours ago||
More likely to be related to the E Files than the X ones
imglorp 13 hours ago|
E-File? Like, taxes?
ahhhhnoooo 12 hours ago||
Epstein files.
cheonn638 5 hours ago||
> Epstein files.

Nobody cares

imglorp 4 hours ago|||
Without rule of law, we don't really have a civilization.

Should there be some people laws don't apply to?

NietzscheanNull 5 hours ago|||
Nobody cares that a large number of billionaires and world leaders, individuals with the power to steer the course of society as a whole, are implicated in one of the largest (and darkest) scandals in history?

Speak for yourself.

1970-01-01 6 hours ago||
Whatever happened to the New Jersey drones? Did we give up on them or did they give up on us?
deadbabe 45 minutes ago|
What drones, there were never any New Jersey drones.
procflora 2 hours ago||
It's inter-organizational disfunction. Always more plausible than any conspiracy.

https://apnews.com/article/faa-el-paso-texas-air-space-close...

Pentagon wanted to test the new laser but didn't give FAA enough information to assure safety of the NAS and civilian aviation (when, where, effects, etc.) so they felt forced to pull the big TFR lever. They fired the laser of at who knows what and then FAA lifted the TFR.

roysting 15 hours ago||
I wonder if the dormant volcanic field west of El Paso that is covered by the TFR may be similar to Iranian volcanic mountains?

Remember, the Netanyahoo just arrived in the US mere hours before this and it is always a bad omen when the devil comes to collect.

einarfd 15 hours ago||
Could it be that USA government believe that Iran might be trying to do something similar to the Ukraine operation spiderweb, where they attacked the Russian long distance bomber fleet with short distance FPV drones? While there aren't bombers at Fort Bliss. As far as I know there are other high value targets.
mikkupikku 15 hours ago|
Probably the least unhinged theory in this thread, but unfortunately it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If they had intel about such a threat, they'd have to move all high value assets to another base pronto. A flight ban won't stop a shady box truck from rolling into town and releasing a swarm of small drones.

(It would also be uncharacteristic of Iran to actually attack America directly, on American soil. Try to find examples of Iran doing that and you'll come up quiet short.)

roysting 15 hours ago||
You may want to recalibrate things. That’s just about the most unhinged theory here. So “Iran” is just going to go “well, shucks, I guess we can’t launch our drone swarm now that they issued a TFR.”

Not even to mention you’re ignoring the TFR far outside and away from El Paso over the Potrillo volcanic mountains

lvspiff 14 hours ago|||
I can hear russia/iran now “darn they thwarted our plans to take out el paso and that mountain. There are absolutely zero other targets in the vicinity we can fly to. Zero in a 100 mile radius our drone has a capability to get to within 10 days. I mean if we had 11 days sure but how do they know 10 days???”
mikkupikku 14 hours ago|||
Your volcano theory is less unhinged, but most of the talk is about nuclear weapons tests, which would be enormously unhinged if that theory is true.
codeduck 14 hours ago||
Am I hallucinating? Wasn't there just an identical thread on the front page not even an hour ago?
baq 14 hours ago||
You aren’t, probably was flagged down by not being hacker enough (or more likely for being an open invitation to runaway speculation without any grounding in reality and facts)
graemep 13 hours ago|||
This also seems to be an open invitation to runaway speculation.

A lot of the speculation is ridiculous given only a small area has been closed. That is not a prelude to war, for example!

array_key_first 1 hour ago|||
The last time anything even close to this has happened was 9/11. Lately, we have been living in times that are more often unprecedented. But, do not let that desensitize you. This was not business as usual. This was extremely strange. Things like this only happen in times of War. Why are they happening now?
JumpinJack_Cash 13 hours ago|||
War no, but extraction absolutely.

Aruba, Curacao and Bonaire were closed off the day before Maduro's extraction

debo_ 12 hours ago||||
*runway speculation
uncivilized 13 hours ago||||
You've just described every comment section on HackerNews.
watwut 14 hours ago|||
Proper hackers are interested in homeschool propaganda, but not in closed airspace.
altairprime 14 hours ago||
Email the mods and they’ll check and merge the dupes :)
scoofy 5 hours ago||
I just think it's weird that major events regarding the Epstein files always seem to be below the fold because something huge, that just happens to be entirely under executive branch discretion, ends up dominating the headlines.
whizzter 17 hours ago||
"Special security reason", sounds like a prelude to a special military operation?
euroderf 15 hours ago|||
You mean like, a three-day invasion of Mexico ?
lazide 15 hours ago||
Or just stirring up a bunch of ICE noise at the border.
c420 16 hours ago||
Underground nuclear test and trying to mitigate the EMP grounding proximate planes?
bobthepanda 16 hours ago|||
An underground nuclear test is going to happen within ten miles of El Paso airport? Sounds unlikely
c420 16 hours ago||
The second TFR which was released at the same time is in the NM desert directly east

Map of both: https://i0.wp.com/elpasomatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/...

npiano 15 hours ago||||
EMPs only occur in very high altitude tests
extraduder_ire 16 hours ago||||
Why wouldn't that be announced in advance? It'll be detectable internationally as soon as it happens.
AdamN 16 hours ago||
If true they would have told the Russians and the Chinese and yes everybody will know after the fact. But for various reasons they might not want to disclose ahead of time in case Trump gets talked out of it or they realize they're not ready or various other reasons (perhaps the Energy Dept. doesn't actually want to do it but they're going forward step by step hoping it gets halted).
mikkupikku 15 hours ago||
If they already know, complaining about it in advance will soften the public shock when it happens, which is probably not what Russia and China want. They'd prefer that the rest of the world be maximally shocked and outraged by such a transgression of international norms.
FrankBooth 16 hours ago|||
EMP from an underground blast? Ok bud.
altairprime 16 hours ago|
I wonder if this was issued by the VP’s Secret Service to the FAA directly; they got caught last year fucking with DC airspace using a beacon spoofer, and they would (presumably, they’re the SS) have the authority to issue these secretly without having to be named and answer for the impact: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/aviation-flights-whi...

(See also Die Hard 2, I suppose.)

But: of the “less simple than invading Mexico” theory (which would be trivial to confirm or refute with binoculars and telescopes) I think the nuclear testing theory is more likely, as it would be in character for the current U.S. administration to decide to turn a border region radioactive to both decrease both the quantity of, and the median fertility of, those who cross the border, especially following posturing about health care costs. Presumably the U.S. does not view itself as liable to Mexico for across-the-border downwinder’s treatment costs. Not seeing a spike in KI prices in a couple spot checks, though.

Hopefully it’s something offensive enough to finally get the world to embargo Palantir.

altairprime 8 hours ago|
I did not have “airspace closed for ten days to shoot down a drone with lasers” anywhere on my bingo card. Huh. When life gives you lemons, file a TFR about it, I suppose.
altairprime 1 hour ago||
Correction: Party ballon.
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