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Posted by WXLCKNO 17 hours ago

Claude Code is being dumbed down?(symmetrybreak.ing)
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theZilber 17 hours ago|
What happens when you press ctrl+o? You get verbose mode?
pacoWebConsult 17 hours ago||
You can only ctrl+o the most recent response, and its a lot worse than knowing the # of lines read or the pattern grepped, which are useful because it can tell you what the agent is thrashing on trying to find, or what context would be useful to give it upfront in the future.
koakuma-chan 17 hours ago|||
I just tested, it shows you which files it read, same as first example he gave "Where you used to see."
WXLCKNO 17 hours ago||
Yeah just that it's not real time and you have to toggle to see it. It lags a bunch also in longer threads. Definitely a downgrade.
koakuma-chan 17 hours ago||
I mean yes, they claim that it's "Claude Code Native" or something but it does feel laggy and takes multiple seconds to start. What do they even mean native, didn't they acquire Bun? It's not native. They need to rewrite it in Rust, I'm serious.
WXLCKNO 16 hours ago||
Codex feels much faster. For a while after the rewrite (to rust also I think?) it was bad because you couldn't copy anything from the terminal but since then it's gotten much much better.
alsetmusic 17 hours ago|||
I believe it opens the file that was referenced. Apologies in advance if I got that wrong.
stefan_ 16 hours ago||
Honestly? Half the time the shitty vibe coded Claude CLI interface spergs out. Don't try to scroll too much
pkilgore 13 hours ago||
https://www.conductor.build/
iamleppert 17 hours ago||
As soon as there is a viable alternative to Claude Code, I'm gone after this change. It appears minor on the surface but their response to all the comments tells you everything you need to know. They don't even want to concede at all, or at least give a flag to enable the old behavior, what was deployed and working for many users before. It's a signal that someone, somewhere at Anthropic is making decisions based on ego, not user feedback.

The other fact pattern is their CLI is not open source, so we can't go in and change it ourselves. We shouldn't have to. They have also locked down OpenCode and while there are hacks available, I shouldn't have to resort to such cat and mouse games as someone who pays $200/month for a premium service.

I'm aggressively exploring other options, and it's only a matter of if -- not when, one surfaces.

ibejoeb 15 hours ago||
Am I right that they still refuse to read AGENTS.md?
TJTorola 15 hours ago||
Yes as of about a week ago, last I checked.
deagle50 16 hours ago|||
codex cli. I switched, no regrets. Also, $20 for top model vs being limited to sonnet.
stefan_ 16 hours ago||
Plus (the $20 plan) is still stuck on 5.2 right now..
deagle50 16 hours ago||
5.3 codex xhigh works for me
ReptileMan 16 hours ago||
Honestly even medium is quite good.
WXLCKNO 17 hours ago||
"It appears minor on the surface but their response to all the comments tells you everything you need to know."

I mean I hope it's just a single developer being stubborn rather than guidance from management asking everyone to simplify Claude Code for maximum mass appeal. But I agree otherwise, it's telling.

dogleash 17 hours ago||
>Try using it for a few days. We've been using this internally at Anthropic for about a month now, and found that it took people a few days to mentally switch over to the new UI. Once they did, it "clicked" and they appreciated the reduced noise and focus on the tools that actually do need their attention.

Ah, the old "you're holding it wrong."

WXLCKNO 17 hours ago||
Sorry I'm dumber than the average Anthropic employee, might just take me a few more days for it to "click" that I'm no longer seeing useful information and that this is good.
layer8 16 hours ago||
They’re dog-fooding it wrong. ;)
slantaclaus 13 hours ago||
$200 a month? I buy compute credits as needed and have used maybe $300 in a year
smcleod 14 hours ago||
> That’s it. “Read 3 files.” Which files? Doesn’t matter.

It doesn't say "Read 3 files." though - it says "Read 3 files (ctrl+o to expand)" and you press ctrl+o and it expands the output to give you the detail.

It's a really useful feature to increase the signal to noise ratio where it's usually safe to do so.

I suspect the author simply needs to enable verbose mode output.

pkilgore 13 hours ago|
This is directly addressed in the article.
dev_l1x_be 14 hours ago||
Give me my local models so I can write a locally handcrafted tool that does what I want, goddamit.
bennydog224 9 hours ago||
It feels like CC got nerfed after the 4.6 drop.
eptcyka 17 hours ago||
Can we not like, just apply a patch? Or will anthropic be mad if I run their client with my own patch?

Nix makes it easy to package up esotheric patches reliably and reproducibly, claude lowers the cost of creating such patches, the only roadblocks Inforesee are legal.

jy14898 13 hours ago||
https://github.com/aleks-apostle/claude-code-patches/pull/9 is what I found, not tested yet
tylergetsay 17 hours ago||
Claude code is distributed as a minified JS bundle so you cant just easily patch in this functionality
eptcyka 16 hours ago||
I’m told that this new LLM tech is great at deminimizing minified javascript, no?
syspec 14 hours ago|
RooCode is a better version of ClaudeCode than ClaudeCode.

No affiliation, just a fan.

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