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Posted by thatha7777 12 hours ago

Major European payment processor can't send email to Google Workspace users(atha.io)
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amelius 3 hours ago||
That will teach those pesky Europeans not to start their own payment processors.
herczegzsolt 10 hours ago||
I vaguely remember hitting this message id issue in Google Workspace, and being able to work around it in mail routing configuration.

Saidly I don't remember the specifics, it was something along the lines of not all, but only specific routing features requiring it. Workspace settings are a moving target anyway, so the behavior probably changed more than once since.

I'm not saying it's a good idea to send emails without message id, but i'd also double-check that workspace configuration.

mamiride 4 hours ago||
Mamiride dot com email verifications are not delivered to Gmail from a self-hosted mail server and I wonder if this is the reason. We got around this by making email verification an optional step instead of mandatory.
sceptic123 10 hours ago||
> Why this matters

Hello AI (Claude?)

jms703 6 hours ago||
To author:

The phrase:

“sends verification emails without a Message-ID header — a recommendation of RFC 5322 since 2008”

can be misread as though RFC 5322 recommends not including a Message-ID.

youknownothing 9 hours ago||
It used to be said that the reason the Internet evolved so well was because of the basic principle of "be strict when you send, but tolerant when you receive". Clearly Google has forgotten this.
robocat 2 hours ago||
That is unstable if defectors are rewarded - which is a common issue on the internet.

If you are too tolerant then bad or lazy actors will cost you too much.

You end up with the tragedy of the commons called "quirks mode".

warkdarrior 3 hours ago||
That worked when the Internet participants were mostly benign. Nowadays you have to account for abusive participants (spammers, malware writers, etc., etc.).
cl0ckt0wer 11 hours ago||
Do you want to enable receiving email for viva.com? sign up for VibeCodedSAAS for E49.99/month
EGreg 11 hours ago|
Just did! My mac mini got pwned though and I wish I didnt give it SMTP accesss… sigh

I just hope my OpenClaw skills registry doesnt have malware anymore. I sure trust my supply chain of vibecoded software!

Deukhoofd 11 hours ago||
Might want to consider Adyen, which should support IRIS, the Greek instant payment system.
thatha7777 10 hours ago|
Thank you for the recommendation! That I couldn't sign up using a form and I had to "talk to their team" was a turn-off for my (extremely extroverted) self.
nottorp 9 hours ago||
That usually means you can't afford it unless you have people working for you that do the 'talk to the team' thing.
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