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Posted by burkaman 3 hours ago

Realfood.gov includes a Grok search box(realfood.gov)
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SrslyJosh 3 hours ago|
That's not a search box.
ChrisArchitect 3 hours ago||
An article: https://www.nextgov.com/digital-government/2026/02/trumps-nu...
wat10000 3 hours ago||
I asked it "How trustworthy is realfood.gov?" It gave me a pretty long response that seemed decent. One part of it said:

"Ironically, the site integrates a Grok AI chatbot (from xAI) for answering nutrition questions, and reports indicate Grok sometimes provides responses that contradict or qualify parts of the site's own guidelines (e.g., noting concerns about evidence quality for certain emphases or that most Americans already get sufficient protein)."

Overall it was pretty positive about the site. Then I asked it, "Is HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. a trustworthy source of nutrition info?" It responded with some positive things, but was happy to call out his bullshit as well, and concluded:

"In summary, RFK Jr. is a mixed bag as a nutrition source: authoritative by virtue of his position, with some valid points on processed foods that resonate with experts, but his lack of specialized expertise, history of misinformation, and controversial guideline changes make him unreliable for many in the scientific community. For personalized nutrition advice, it's best to cross-reference with sources like registered dietitians, peer-reviewed studies, or organizations such as the American Heart Association, rather than relying solely on any single figure or policy."

I wonder if they know what it "thinks" about him.

PlatoIsADisease 3 hours ago||
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Peritract 3 hours ago||
The section you quote is a factual statement.
munk-a 3 hours ago||
But reality does have a well known liberal bias - they should try and be more fair and balanced!
ehehehewheh 3 hours ago||
I’m not sure why you’re having such a strong reaction. When something is in the news, they tend to provide context by referring to other recent news stories on the same subject. 90% of recent news stories about Grok are talking about how Elon Musk has been defending it against accusations of producing sexualized images of minors and often-illegal non-consensual simulated pornography.

It should be more shocking to you if it had not mentioned that

PlatoIsADisease 3 hours ago||
>I’m not sure why you’re having such a strong reaction.

I have emotional reactions when people are trying to mislead me. I have the same when I hear populist demagogues lie on TV.

Evolution or something.

ceejayoz 3 hours ago|||
But that quote is not at all misleading. It's a factual description of what happened.
XorNot 3 hours ago|||
Which part was misleading? The section you quoted was all references to real stories which happened recently.
lovich 3 hours ago||
He means it disagrees with his bias so he doesn’t like it.
andsoitis 3 hours ago||
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ganelonhb 3 hours ago||
This appears to be vibecoded slop. I feel like I can instantly tell when a website is slop… I’m interested to know if others have noticed this ability start to crop up as these vibe codes sites appear on HN
jazz9k 3 hours ago|
I have no problem with this. Much less chance of getting biased answers.
Y-bar 3 hours ago||
What if I want answers with a pro-facts and pro-scientific bias?
DANmode 10 minutes ago|||
Run the site by Qwen.
PlatoIsADisease 3 hours ago|||
I had ChatGPT give me incorrect answers to a real life game theory problem.

I had ChatGPT tell me I was imagining an HR problem related to the women.

Grok got them right. My executive team got them right.

I'm not defending Elon, but after those 2 chatGPT failings due to moral coating, I unsubscribed and got Claude.

ceejayoz 3 hours ago||
I mean, sample size of two.

Grok will also tell you it's MechaHitler, that Musk is fitter than LeBron James, and that he "would have risen from the dead faster than Jesus", sometimes. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/nov/21/elon-musk...

Maybe don't use chatbots for HR at all?

DANmode 8 minutes ago|||
Grok is a meme-social-network-based chatbot.

How are people not making this distinction?

> Maybe don't use chatbots for HR at all?

Probably not!

PlatoIsADisease 2 hours ago|||
But Grok was helpful. Why wouldnt I use something helpful?
ceejayoz 3 hours ago|||
About that…

RFK Jr's Nutrition Chatbot Recommends Best Foods to Insert Into Your Rectum: https://www.404media.co/rfk-jrs-nutrition-chatbot-recommends...

cogman10 3 hours ago|||
I disagree.

AI is very good at conforming to your own biases and pulling out the subtext of a prompt.

If your prompt goes along the lines of "I think x is healthy plan a meal for x", grok (and other AI) will happily affirm that you are correct and really smart for recognizing that "x" is the healthiest diet and then it'll give you that diet.

That's a biased answer. AI biases to your own biases.

Or maybe said another way. AI starts with the baseline assumption that you are an expert and correct in your prompt. It can be hard to get an AI to call you out for being wrong about something.

lionkor 3 hours ago||
compared to?
irishcoffee 3 hours ago||
Clearly they’re referring to deepmind. I don’t have an opinion on how accurate this is, but feigning ignorance doesn’t help further discussion or reduce echo chambers.
lynndotpy 3 hours ago||
That's really not clear at all.

I earnestly can't anticipate what specific information-diet someone could have where they would so strongly assume that Google Deepmind (of all the various AI companies) is a clear and sole foil to Grok that they would assume anyone who didn't share that perspective to be feigning ignorance in bad faith.

Where-ever you're having these discussions where it's entirely unfamiliar to me (and evidently others). (I don't say this with scorn or malice!)

On the greater topic of "bias", it's kind of meaningless. There's correct answers and there are incorrect answers, and "bias" refers to some tendency away from an assumed default distribution. Randomly-generated strings might be the only "unbiased" response. This is really more a difficult epistemic question, and I'd prefer something that is biased towards what's most likely to be true (e.g. Wikipedia > someones Livejournal).

Given Grok has been intentionally made to generate text praising Hitler, and I have very very high confidence that Hitler actually sucks, I have very very low confidence in the ability for the Grok program to reliably generate text that's worth reading.

irishcoffee 2 hours ago||
Sorry, deepseek, not deepmind. My apologies. They're all so clearly named.