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Posted by ozzyphantom 2 days ago

Fix the iOS keyboard before the timer hits zero or I'm switching back to Android(ios-countdown.win)
1594 points | 773 commentspage 23
abetancort 1 day ago|
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knowitnone3 2 days ago||
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PlatoIsADisease 2 days ago||
>i'm weak

>I caved to the blue bubble pressure

This is basically how I view iphone users. They buy an inferior product because Apple exploited their lack of status. From moms, to teens, to low-middle income people... Heck, its even infected some perpetually single techies who are so insecure they buy the inferior Apple product.

These companies that exploit such psychology is disgusting. From Apple to Nintendo to Disney, there is something that feels immoral about how they market to their customers.

And you bet they have contracted out some marketing team to patrol every social media to downvote/upvote/comment as 'reputation management'...But hey they contracted them, plausible deniability.

metabagel 2 days ago||
I switched to iPhone for battery life. Additionally, Apple isn’t an advertising company like Google.

However, I agree that Apple should cooperate with Google on messaging. Signal is so much better, but it’s hard to get people to switch.

PlatoIsADisease 2 days ago|||
If you don't have concerns over security, don't care about AI, don't need niche apps, don't need tech/nerd apps, don't worry about vendor lock-in, I can totally see caring about battery life.

So how many days does your battery last? No that isnt a good question, How often do you run out of battery? No that isnt a good question, android users aren't running out of battery.

How did Apple convince you this mattered?

roryirvine 1 day ago||||
Aren't all the major manufacturers clustered around roughly the same battery life?

Sure, there may be an hour or two's difference between equivalent models from different vendors, but it's nothing like the Garmin vs Apple watch situation - they're all in the same "it'll probably last a weekend, but definitely not a week" ballpark.

bigyabai 2 days ago|||
> Additionally, Apple isn’t an advertising company like Google.

What does "advertising company" mean? Apple does in-fact sell advertisements[0], and relies very heavily on marketing to convey their value proposition.

[0] https://ads.apple.com/app-store/help/ad-placements/0082-sear...

disgruntledphd2 2 days ago||
> > Additionally, Apple isn’t an advertising company like Google.

What does "advertising company" mean? Apple does in-fact sell advertisements[0], and relies very heavily on marketing to convey their value proposition.

That's how good they are advertising, they built a brand around how they don't use advertising.

temptemptemp111 1 day ago||
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notorandit 1 day ago||
There's clearly something wrong here.

Either this user is faking everything about the keyboard, or Apple is.

None is testing (the keyboard) at Apple? Possible, but unlikely.

None is checking test results at Apple, possible and much less unlikely.

They want you to forget about the keyboard and go all vocal because "it's easier"? Sure.

That user wants his/her 15 minutes og glory? Possible, but unlikely.

hyperhello 2 days ago||
I did a lot of classic Mac programming in its day. I knew how to react to the events, and how to use a Color QuickDraw window’s RefCon, and how to mark parts of a window for redraw.

I don’t understand how it works internally anymore. I mean I can program it, but none of the way linear logic used to apply.

I’m concerned that it’s internally very overcomplicated, because that’s how software is supposed to be designed now, but the “simplicity” is like a second system effect. A whole layer that makes clicking a button appear to work, when really there is no code flow that resembles the process.

shevy-java 1 day ago||
It's a bit strange because why purchase from Apple but then complain? If the quality is below the expectation; and/or the price too high, people can choose with their money to purchase something else. Viewed more objectively most people probably don't consider this to be a main impetus for people abandoning iPhone. I have not purchased any apple-specific hardware, but to me it is strange to e. g. make Apple big (by purchasing their stuff) and then assume there would be many people who are angry at Apple. That does not appear to make a whole lot of sense.
speak_plainly 2 days ago|
Terrorizing Apple with a countdown threat is probably not going to accomplish much.

You could try installing Gboard (https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/gboard-the-google-keyboard/id1...), or SwiftKey (https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/microsoft-swiftkey-ai-keyboard...)...and there are probably other options.

It may be even more obvious, but there are settings in general/keyboard that you can toggle.

I noticed a bit of a shift in the stock typing experience, but I adapted and it's fine.

Kovah 2 days ago||
I recently tested Swiftkey after Typewise is sadly abandoned. It's sooooo much better than the stock keyboard. Not only is the auto-correct working incredibly well (garbage like witjoit is correctly transformed to without, which Apple Keyboard can't), Swiftkey also manages multi-language typing astonishingly well. Last but not least, I can customize it. I am also not signed in to my account, so no settings or whatever is stored on Microsoft servers.
eptcyka 2 days ago|||
Of course, the first party keyboard doesn't work, you should use the ones that definitely do not phone home to either Google or Microsoft.

Of course regular window management doesn't just work out of the box, you should install one of the many different window managers on macOS.

I was under the impression that to get a product that just works, I can buy Apple hardware, right?

speak_plainly 1 day ago|||
Is this an actual bug or is this just a corrupt database or corrupt setting? What steps were taken to try to alleviate the issue, basics like resetting the keyboard dictionary? DFU restore of the phone? If you're not willing to troubleshoot an issue on your phone, rather than just throw it away and buy an Android, trying a 3rd party keyboard seems sensible to me.

Ultimately, Apple is responsible here but I don't think this is an intractable issue baked into the software. And yeah, maintenance is required despite what the perception might be. Apple even offers great support services for people who are not able to do it themselves.

eptcyka 1 day ago||
What are you even talking about? DFU mode? For a keyboard ussue? My brither in christ, it is a keyboard, it is the one thing that must just work. Oh yeah, let me just dump a sysdiagnose for the 50th time today because the keyboard chose to autocorrect my spelling into nonesense. I submit enough bugs as is, I receive radio silence enough, I ain’t got time to do unpaid qa or pr for a billion dollar company. What is so dofficult about observing that the touch inputs and the touch feedback does not match the characters that end up produced into the text input field.

Does it even matter if it is a corrupt setting or not? Why would it matter? As far as I am concerned, I am seeing every iOS user around me suffering from this. The root cause does not matter here.

Kovah 2 days ago|||
The sad part is, that Apple used to make somewhat stable, functional software. I started with the iPhone 3 and a bit later with Mac OS Snow Leopard. It all started when Mr Cook decided to serve the shareholders, instead of focusing on Apple's core values. The software went downhill in such a speed in just a few years. And moving out of the ecosystem is a painful, if not unbearable, task that barely anyone loves to do. At least I can't even think about moving back to Android.
avazhi 2 days ago||
Telling anybody to install third party shit to fix first party shit should have been a hint to you that what you're saying is laughable.

Throwing random nonsense about 'general/keyboard' settings (that don't exist, btw) because you yourself can't think of anything specific should have been another.

The keyboard, specifically the Autocorrect, is fucked and has progressively worsened over the past 5 years. It's atrocious today. This is a first party problem that shouldn't need 3rd party solutions, end of story.