Posted by danielhanchen 16 hours ago
Whatever workflow lead to that?
> I might have "dark" mode on on Chrome + MacOS.
Probably that's the reason.
This isn't a reason not to use Qwen. It just means having a sense of the constraints it was developed under. Unfortunately, populist political pressure to rewrite history is being applied to the American models as well. This means its on us to apply reasonable skepticism to all models.
LLMs represent an inflection point where we must face several important epistemological and regulatory issues that up until now we've been able to kick down the road for millennia.
I'm so tired of seeing this exact same response under EVERY SINGLE release from a Chinese lab. At this point it's starting to read more xenophobic and nationalist than having anything to do with the quality of the model or its potential applications.
If you're just here to say the exact same thoughtless line that ends up in triplicate under every post then please at least have an original thought and add something new to the conversation. At this point it's just pointless noise and it's exhausting.
Mind you, this has nothing to do with the model being Chinese, all open source models are like this, with very few niche exceptions. But we also have to stop being politically correct and saying that a model trained to rewrite history is OK.
I don't understand your hostile attitude; I've built things with multiple Chinese models and that does not preclude me or anyone else from discussing censorship. It's a hot topic in the category of model alignment, because recent history has shown us how effective and dangerous generational tech lock-in can be.
Yes, we should! And yet we don't, and that is exactly why I am so tired of seeing the exact same comment against one nation state and no others. If you're going to call out bullshit, make sure you're capable of smelling your own shit as well, otherwise you just come across as a moral tourist.
We all know the model is going to include censorship. Repeating the exact same line that was under every other model release adds nothing to the conversation, and over time starts to sound like a dog whistle. If you're going to create a top level comment to discuss this, actually have an original thought instead of informing everyone that water is wet, the sky is blue, and the CCP has influence over Chinese AI companies.
But there are topics that ChatGPT hard blocks just like Qwen [1].
[1] https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/chatgpt-ai-david-mayer-op...
I was looking for something closer to: https://www.vals.ai/benchmarks/swebench