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Posted by mooreds 7 hours ago

How not to answer the salary question(adatosystems.com)
78 points | 73 commentspage 3
pgt 5 hours ago|
I have helped a lot of people earn more money. The best advice I have for anyone doing salary negotiations: you cannot negotiate without options, so step 1 in any negotiation is to gather options.
lollobomb 5 hours ago||
Sorry, this is utter BS, or at least it doesn't apply to all situations.

I played exactly this script during my first interviews, never giving the first number, etc. It worked well for me exactly one time: the very first job I had out of academia where I did actually have to negotiate a salary. All the other times it resulted in waste of time and loss of sanity.

I am now very upfront with my expectations, or at least my non-expectations: "My current salary is X and I have Y perks, and I am in a good team; I wouldn't even consider moving for less than this, regardless of how cool your team is, and if you don't beat these numbers substantially I already know that my current employer will make me a counteroffer, and then you lose time but I win regardless." (of course not literally, but the message is this).

Less interviews, less time wasted.

Apreche 5 hours ago||
I don’t give prospective employers a number. I just tell them that I pay rent on a 2BR in NYC. Then the ball is in their court.
nelsonfigueroa 5 hours ago||
> "Error establishing a database connection"

RIP, looks like the site got hugged.

nuancebydefault 5 hours ago|
It is exactly the point, stay blank if they ask that question!
guywithahat 5 hours ago||
I’m not sure this article really applies to my experience. There are lots of companies who have extremely rigid pay ranges, and if you ask for wiggle room on a low salary they just move on to the next applicant. You should apply to jobs because you’d rather work there, and should come in with minimum salaries you’d accept. Thinking you’re going to negotiate 50k more after holding an offer in your hand is a good way to have the offer taken back
bpt3 6 hours ago||
Terrible advice if you value your time or sanity, especially if you are experienced or not desperate for a job.

Find out the range up front by reading the job posting, making the recruiter tell you, asking a friend who works there, or asking after applying if you have no other connections.

No company is going to refuse to share the information because they are secretly planning to blow a qualified applicant away with a top of market offer.

nobleach 5 hours ago|
I've used this as a chance to turn things back around on the recruiters. "That's a great question and I noticed you didn't mention a salary range on the posting". Allow for an uncomfortable silence as now they're either forced to give a range, or try to say something like, "it's flexible for the right candidate". The latter is my opportunity to agree, "Of course, let's concentrate on that question then, I'd sure like if we could get to the bottom of this 'right candidate' question".
bpt3 4 hours ago||
No, don't let them get off the hook with "it's flexible for the right candidate", especially if you are talking to a recruiter (either internal or external).

That "flexibility" will suddenly disappear if your expectations are higher than they are looking to pay for the role, even if your expectations are completely warranted.

htx80nerd 6 hours ago|
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