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Posted by acnops 16 hours ago

Is Show HN dead? No, but it's drowning(www.arthurcnops.blog)
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trane_project 6 hours ago|
Tried to use Show HN for my new project a couple months ago with almost no traction. It's a software literacy tutor, so I guess it's not the right audience, but my intuition aligns with this. For reference, an earlier post showing the practice engine that powers the literacy tutor did pretty well back in 2023 and it was my first post. I've had more success getting sign ups trying to do just the tiniest bit of SEO.

Trane (good post): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31980069

Pictures Are For Babies (lame post): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45290805

ineedasername 4 hours ago||
Basically: More people are having more ideas that they’re able execute to at least a minimal degree. That doesn’t seem bad, but like an editor’s slush pile yeah- things are gonna get lost in the noise.
alexhans 14 hours ago||
I had a similar experience trying to get feedback on my attempt to help different role families adopt AI evals as a common language (hands on tutorial or tool comparison).

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47026263

I attribute it mostly to my own inability to pitch something that is aimed for many audiences at once and needs more UX polishing and maybe a bit on timing.

It's tough when you're not looking to sell a product but moreso engage in a community without going the twitter/bluesky route (which I'll bregudgingly may start using).

Maybe evals is a problem that people don't have yet because they can just build their custom thing or maybe it needs a "hey, you're building agent skills, here's the mental model" (e.g. https://alexhans.github.io/posts/series/evals/building-agent... ) and once they get to the evals part, we start to interact.

In any case, I still find quite a lot of cool things in SHOW HN but the volume will definitely be a challenge going forward.

coffeecoders 5 hours ago||
Slightly related, I have been writing all my local tools with the help of AIs.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47006108

mozz100 15 hours ago||
Side question: I love the charts in your blog post. Would you be able to share how they were generated?
acnops 11 hours ago||
Charts were vibe-coded in a not-yet-shareable way. It's pure SVG. I asked it to take inspiration from https://www.star-history.com/.

These days I guess we don't want a library? I can create an MIT-licensed repo with some charts you can point your AI agent to, if it helps?

The font is Gaegu.

saberd 14 hours ago|||
yeah I also really liked the font and graphs. maybe its https://plus.excalidraw.com/virgil?
reconnecting 15 hours ago||
...and especially, a font. Comic Sans Neue PRO?
dang 8 hours ago||
p.s. I thought the OP's Show HN looked pretty good so I put it in the SCP (https://news.ycombinator.com/pool, explained at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308)

Show HN: Clawntown – An Evolving Crustacean Island - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47023255

m4tthumphrey 15 hours ago||
I find this very interesting, but am I being dense here? https://www.arthurcnops.blog/images/hn-show-dead-one-point.s...

The legend says SHNs are getting worse, but surely if the % of SHN posts with 1 point is going DOWN (as per graph) then it's getting better? Either I am dense or the legends are the wrong way round no?

kitd 15 hours ago|
The long-term trend (ie since 2023) is for more ShowHN posts to be stuck at 1 point compared with normal posts, and for that gap to be growing. This implies that people find the ShowHNs to be less and less interesting.
m4tthumphrey 15 hours ago||
Ah yes, I was being dense. I was so obsessed with the steepness of the last point drop and completely missed the overall trend line! Thanks.
jacquesm 15 hours ago||
It is indeed, and it is very much ripe for a serious review. Which is a pity because I think it is one of HN's most powerful pieces.
bambax 14 hours ago||
The fact that the volume is exploding but the graveyard is also exploding, is a sign that the system is working, not that it's broken (the filter is working).

I did 3 ShowHN in 2024 (outside of the scope of this analysis), one with 306 points, another with 126 points and the third with... 2. There's always been some kind of unpredictability in ShowHN.

But I think the number one criteria for visibility is intelligibility: the project has to be easy to understand immediately, and if possible, easy to install/verify. IMHO, none of the three projects that the author complains didn't get through the noise qualify on this criteria. #2 and #3 are super elaborate (and overly specific); #1 is the easiest to understand (Neohabit) but the home page is heavy in examples that go in all directions, and the github has a million graphics that seem quite complex.

Simplify and thou shall be heard.

verdverm 14 hours ago|
The difference since Clawd and friends became popular is palpable, you see it growing on GitHub too with the PR spam.

I'm wondering how much of it is portfolio building to keep or find a new job in a post-Ai coding world

chris_armstrong 4 hours ago|
The answer, as always, is to write a compelling story about it, and make the front page of ‘new’.
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