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Posted by 1vuio0pswjnm7 8 hours ago

Mark Zuckerberg grilled on usage goals and underage users at California trial(www.wsj.com)
140 points | 76 commentspage 2
Keekgette 3 hours ago|
Mark Parilla haha
hinkley 6 hours ago||
> In sworn testimony, Zuckerberg said Meta’s growth targets reflect an aim to give users something useful, not addict them, and that the company doesn’t seek to attract children as users.

That’s a perjury.

I suppose getting more ad revenue is useful to someone, but not the user.

Of course some of us warned that project management by A/B testing would lead to amoral if not outright immoral outcomes but wtf do we know about human nature? Turns out putting a badly made android in charge of a large chunk of culture leads to the near collapse of civilization, which I don’t think any of us would have predicted.

klik99 6 hours ago||
I and others (but not as many as I would have thought) recognized the switch to algorithmic feed in 2006 was a fundamental shift in what social media was. But back then I predicted it would destroy Facebook, which was so wrong - really it ended up (partly) destroying western civilization.

I think people are good at sensing that things are changing but not how it’d play out. It’s very easy to see it in hindsight and even recognize it’s bad, I don’t think anyone saw how bad it would get. I just hope we don’t lose the ideals of free speech and the early promise of the internet with regulating platforms.

laweijfmvo 3 hours ago|||
Which part is perjury? Can you prove that Mark Zuckerberg doesn’t think his apps deliver something useful to the users? As far as the attracting kids part, well, that’s the entire premise of the trial, no?
hdgs76 6 hours ago|||
Wall Street has been rewarding morally detached leadership for decades using the language of rationality, math and science. Ask them what their source of morality is and their textbook answer is its mathematically inefficient.
Psillisp 6 hours ago|||
Capitalism's existence is actively turning the screws on humanity. The screws of Meta are a lot more refined than the ones used by the Slave Trade Monopoly of the Dutch West India Company but the screws persist.
Gormo 4 hours ago||
But "capitalism" doesn't actually exist as such -- it's just a concept that represents patterns of human behavior that stem from human beings' pre-existing motivations inclinations.

Treating descriptive models as the causal factors behind the things they're describing is a reification fallacy.

jjtheblunt 6 hours ago|||
> which I don’t think any of us would have predicted.

Skynet from Terminator probably would have been referenced by almost everyone, though, as an analogy?

throwaway27448 6 hours ago||
> Turns out putting a badly made android in charge of a large chunk of culture leads to the near collapse of civilization, which I don’t think any of us would have predicted.

I can't tell if this is supposed to be commentary on Zuckerberg or capitalism/free-market-based economies itself.

halestock 5 hours ago||
Some alternative reporting:

https://www.wired.com/story/mark-zuckerberg-testifies-social...

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/mark-zucke...

CobrastanJorji 5 hours ago||
Fascinating how differently Musk's testimony is portrayed in the WSJ vs by Rolling Stone.
latchkey 5 hours ago||
@dang at least the RS story vs. paywall please.
cadamsdotcom 5 hours ago|
Oh wow they’re really holding him to account by asking some interesting questions then letting him get back to it.

/s

mrbluecoat 4 hours ago|
Agreed - such useless pageantry. At least with meat, 'grilling' changes it.